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News Briefs 19-08-2016

”The wise man looks into space and does not regard the small as too little, nor the great as too big…”

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Chuang Tzu

  1. Insecticides
    “Insecticides In Chemtrails”

    Let us in on your joke. The article linked makes no mention of insecticides in chemtrails, and as far as I know there is no evidence of them being in chemtrail fallout.

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    Second article:
    “In other words, they found some unusually high amounts of barium, which hardly supports the idea of wide-spread cover-ups of mind control techniques.”

    I am impressed with how often the rather desperate use of association fallacy is employed by these professional debunkers. It means that public awareness has reached a level of awareness requiring the use of sophomoric arguments and little hissy fits by the debunkers.
    The same thing is happening with the larger public awareness of globalist schemes and projects. Really things like massive chemtrail ops held in secrecy from the public are in the same category as TTIP – the less the public knows about what is actually going on the better, but Joe Public has quit being a willing consumer of the various bullsh*ts anymore.

  2. Chemtrails
    I am amazed at the smart people that get sucked into this craziness. I’m 62 and I remember being a kid and seeing contrails that look exactly like those called “chemtrails” today. I remember finding out back then that they were frozen water given off by the jet planes exhaust. I also learned in engineering school that water was generated in petroleum fuel combustion, hence the source of the water. Nothing about this has changed, except that there are more jet flights today then ever. Adding to the confusion is the fact that there IS such a thing as aerial spraying: crop dusting and cloud seeding. Both of these are not done by jet aircraft, especially commercial passenger jets. Crop dusting is something I know of first hand from when I lived an area of rural California where they did this way too close to the little town I lived in. It was done at low altitude and left behind nothing that looked like “chemtrails”, just clouds that dissapated quickly. Please drop this you guys. You’re embarrassing yourselves.

    1. If you wish to join the
      If you wish to join the argument at least do a little homework. First of all – understand the technical difference between the usual jet contrail and a metals based aerosol. Then understand that chemtrails are not sprayed by commercial jets. That idea is just a diversion.
      What is also becoming very noticeable is the amount of energy being expended journalistically to debunk the project and how much the debunking sounds more and more like crude trolling. The use of association fallacy which is a form of “shaming” is becoming the hallmark of the debunking, and it is symptomatic of desperation, and what’s more to a generation of people who have cut their eye teeth on social media the use of trolling style tactics is just laughably obvious.

      The reason that chemtrails are getting such pointed attention is that they are a sort of mascot for globalist projects in general, and the chemtrail project is much, much harder to hide or disguise It’s of the same magnitude as the GMO plan to monopolize the world food supply, or the formulated in secret corporatocratic trade bills, or the “missing trillions” of the Pentagon budget, but it is way too hard to hide. Hence, the frenzied attempts at debunking.

      The primary purpose of atmospheric geoengineering is to create a dimming shield of particulates in the atmosphere to inhibit global warming. That may be a legitimate undertaking, but as citizens of the planet we are entitled to know what is taking place, and who is running the show. “Running the show” does not appear to be a curtain the current crop of globalists and so called “elites” want us to see behind.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGsi7JaV6gs

      1. CT
        Hey, I’m just an old hippy who likes to read about weird stuff. I’m also an engineer. What I’m not is some kind of professional debunker/troll. I don’t trust the government to tell us the truth, either, but that doesn’t mean they lie when they don’t need to. From what I’ve seen, most followers of the chemtrails conspiracy do think that contrails that persist are chemtrails and this is something that just started in the ’90s. You are the one being dismissive here.

    2. Re: doc_fg
      [quote=doc_fg]I am amazed at the smart people that get sucked into this craziness…Please drop this you guys. You’re embarrassing yourselves.[/quote]

      I have friends who are around your age who said they used follow the mosquito trucks in the summer and dance in the DDT spray. They used to allow smoking in operating rooms through the 1980s, but today the thought of that would be outlandish to most doctors.Times have changed and we have learned things. It may take longer than others to learn what is really dangerous and what isn’t.

      TDG explores all views, it is perfectly fine if you don’t agree with them, but this comes off as rude. The stories and articles linked above do not necessarily reflect the views of everyone here. They are posted for the sake of passing on information. If you don’t like them then don’t look. I linked the California page because it was all I could find about the bees G.C. was referencing. I don’t live in CA but I do know the difference between crop dusting and contrails. I personally don’t care much for this particular theory, so don’t assume everyone on here does. Believing in something is not a judge of intelligence.

  3. Agree I do
    I gotta agree with you LastLoup, there is no reason to lambast someone for thinking that Chemtrails are real or not, I myself am of the opinion that they are just Contrails but then I just really don’t know for sure/100%…The only way someone can be 100% sure of anything (including History in general) is for that person to have “lived” that (having been there and have first hand knowledge) any thing else is pure speculation, and from what I have observed here at the Grail, people are free to speculate all they want, and rightfully so, without being dragged through the coals.

  4. chemtrails
    Sorry to come across too strong. I’ve heard about the talk on counteracting global warming with spraying, so I’m not uninformed. What drives me crazy is all the talk of how contrails that hang around are not contrails and that this all started in the last 15-20 years. These are both demonstrably untrue. Hey, I believe in Bigfoot and things stranger still, but this stuff is just silly to me. Sorry.

    1. You must actually sit down
      You must actually sit down and watch a chemtrail spray op unfold before your eyes to see what’s going on. You will see in the same sky as the op that there is regular jet traffic flying through in the same sky but trailing the typical 30 plane length trail. You will also see the spray planes run out of aerosol and suddenly quit trailing anything as they return to their refueling base. You have to pay attention to your local sky and watch for awhile. It then becomes quite obvious what is taking place.
      Chemtrail spray sessions are not everyday – often they are sprayed along the leading edges of advancing weather fronts and the planes will do their zigzag dance in front of the advancing front and follow it clear across the US.

      1. Airspace
        Civilian pilots are well aware of the hazards associated with sharing airspace with military chemtrail spray planes that are not publically flight planned – “off the radar” so to speak.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdO8I3p6zJ4

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZGTS4W4C-c

        Photos of typical chemtrail spray screens:
        http://thegreaterpicture.com/chemtrails.html

        (By the way, I don’t necessarily endorse the conspiratorial elaborations of this link directly above, but the photos are good.)

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