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News Briefs 10-03-2006

So many controversies, so little time.

  • Devilish detail may prove saviour for The Da Vinci Code author.
  • Caves of mystery at Huashan.
  • Satellite sleuth closes in on Noah’s Ark mystery. Satellite image of the Mt. Ararat anomaly.
  • Ancient seafaring ships, discovered in an Egyptian cave that has kept its secrets for 40 centuries, were probably built at a Nile shipyard, then disassembled and carried across 90 miles of desert to the Red Sea, with as many as 3,700 men taking part in the expedition.
  • Gospel of Judas has endured a rocky path from Egypt’s desert to print.
  • US biologist weighs in on human quadruped controversy, saying reverse human evolution is plausible, testable.
  • UK evolutionary psychologist says both nature and nurture explain wrist-walkers.
  • It may be the researchers who are devolving, rather than the wrist-walkers: Misconduct claim pits relatively little-known Turkish reseacher against 3 internationally known UK scientists.
  • Living fossil: Squirrel-like rodent found in a Laos meat market last year belongs to a family thought to have died out 11 million years ago.
  • Cassini finds signs of liquid water on Saturn’s moon, Enceladus.
  • Deities for Atheists: Michael Shermer pens a glowing review of George Basalla’s Civilized Life in the Universe: Scientists on Intelligent Extraterrestrials. Amazon US & UK.
  • Buckyballs, known to damage or destroy DNA, could pose a health threat. Gee, ya think?
  • You are more important than a quark: A brain-tickling review of A Different Universe: Reinventing Physics from the Bottom Down by Nobel Prize winning physicist Robert B. Laughlin. New paperback edition available at Amazon US & UK.
  • Report reveals worldwide illegal spread of genetically engineered crops, including ordinary crops contaminated with GE crops containing pharmaceuticals.
  • Is neuroelectric therapy, or Net, which transmitts low-level currents to the brain, the answer to addiction?
  • The legend of United Flight 93: If the official story is true, how did a burning seat cushion land on the roof of a cabin two and a half miles from the crash site?
  • Details revealed about the blood oath taken by a ‘made man’ in the mafia.
  • The cult of the fox spirits lives on in China.
  • Near Miss in Saudia Arabia Would Have Been an Energy Pearl Harbor.
  • Hotter, Faster, Worser: Over the past several months, the normally restrained voice of science has taken on a distinct note of panic when it comes to global warming. How did we go from debating the “uncertainty” behind climate science to near hysterical warnings from normally sober scientists about irrevocable and catastrophic consequences?
  • At war with our planet: A 3-page review of The Weather Makers: How We are Changing the Climate and What It Means for Life on Earth by Tim Flannery. Amazon US & UK.

Quote of the Day:

Sarah, if the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched.

George H. W. Bush, in an interview with Sarah McClendon, Dec. 1992

  1. hilarious google advert
    I just click on the google ad about cow abduction, on the right-hand side of the homepage. Have a go, because the graphic is hilarious. And there are some great photos too. I especially liked the one of the man and his horse in the ‘products offered’ tab.

    Kat

    1. The question is, right on what?
      >>The Quote is Right On!

      The question is, right on what? You know, sometimes you find quotes on the web that aren’t really quotes, so I checked several websites to be sure this was an actual quote. It is a real quote, but the interesting twist is that apparently Bush 41 said this out of context with the rest of the interview. In other words, no one’s really sure what he was referring to. Such a strong statement out-of-context sounds like the voice of a long-suppressed guilty conscience to me.

      >>If the whole truth was known, the Bushes aren’t the only family, not by far!

      As with any house that needs a good cleaning, you gotta start somewhere.

      Kat

      1. I Agree!
        Kat

        More specifically, you have got to start and the Bushes are as good a family as any to start with! But, when is anyone going to start? The problem is that the families with the most power are the families with the most to lose and they have developed a mutual protection society! So, the best way might be to find a way to sic them on each other!

        What do you think?

        kennc

          1. Shake me, baby
            Truth be told, I’d rather someone much smarter than me would have a go at explaining how and why those caves in Huashan were carved. For instance, how did they carve the inside walls to the exact angle of the outer mountain?

            But around here, you have to make do with whatever comments you do stir… err, make that shake up.

            Kat

          2. Interesting Question; But,…
            Kat

            How does it relate to our origional discussion? On the other hand, I’m interested in the Huashan Caves also!

            What do you think?

            Kennc

          3. Caves vs. politics
            >>How does it relate to our origional discussion?

            Only in the sense that it seems we’d rather discuss politics around here, than archaeological anomalies, etc.

            This Huashan cave article was originally published in 2003, and this is the second time I’ve posted it, because no one commented on it the first time. Here are the relevant parts I’m curious about:

            According to the excavation workers, there is a high possibility that the 36 caves may be connected to one another.

            Of all the 36 caves, the biggest is the Qingliang Cave, which is known as the “Underground Palace” due to its scale and magnificent layout. With a total length of 170 metres, the cave covers a space of 12,600 square metres. Inside the cave there is a stone bridge above an underground river and with stone paths leading to different halls.

            A most mysterious discovery is the slope of the cave. The inclined plane of the walls has exactly the same slope as the outside hill. Yet according to the technology of that time, how could the ancient people have managed that?

            No food remains were found in the cave, nor any smoking or signs of fire. But without fire how could the ancient diggers have produced light in the cave?

            Humm… no smoking or signs of fire inside. Isn’t that also the case with some of Egypt’s pyramids? How could people have carved 36 huge interconnecting caves nearly 2000 years ago without using torches for light? It’s odd that those who used the caves after the original carvers also used no fire.

            And regarding the plane of the walls, I remember a couple of articles, a couple of years back, about carved tunnels – in maybe Greece and/or Turkey – that were somehow similar. If I remember correctly, someone came up with a theory about how the Greeks, digging from different locations, could have figured out how to make their tunnel meet in the middle. Some people didn’t go for the theory, and there were other anomalies that were never explained.

            It seems archaeologists are a bit out of their depth with regard to the light issue, and apparently people in other disciplines aren’t interested or don’t know about it. Does anyone know of any related articles, or theories about any of this?

            Kat

          4. Good Capitalists Love Economics And Politics, But,…
            Kat

            You are right! We talk about politics a little too much.

            You make some excellent points about the caves! Personally, I have always questioned the scholarly presumption, derived from a lack of evidence to the contrary, that we are the first advanced civilization to evolve on this planet. The problem is verifiable evidence. The caves, like the Pyramids, are, from my point of view, a testament to the fact that we aren’t the first evolved civilation that has existed on this planet. But, where is the evidence to prove it? We need evidence, so that, the anomilies can’t be explained away! I hope that we find the evidence! Did you know that Damascus had lighted streets 1000 years ago and that it wasn’t unique!

            What do you think?

            kennc

      2. context?
        Kat, if this is taken out of context, could you maybe provide us with the real context? That might enlighten us as to what he was trying to say.

        So far, we only know what you are trying to say.

        Perhaps it is the voice of supressed guilt, or perhaps it just fits with what you want to believe. The voice of not too supressed dislike on your part. No?

        1. Sarah McClendon interview
          I haven’t been able to find a full text of the interview, but I did find the question she asked Bush, and quite a bit more that’s interesting…

          For decades, Sarah McClendon was a White House Correspondent. She wrote about her work in the 1996 book Mr. President, Mr. President! My Fifty Years of Covering the White House. But you can learn quite a bit about her just by reading this interview of her.

          Who else but Sarah had the courage to stand up at White House press conferences and ask questions like:
          When President Clinton was governor of Arkansas, did the Republicans force him to accept the drugs they were shipping into Mena? …or

          What is President Clinton going to do to stop the drug profits that George Bush continues to funnel into the political machine?

          And, at a White House press conference in April 30, 1998:
          Mr. President, it looks as if you’re getting ready to sign an agreement with China which would give them help and some of our secrets and not just be a friendly thing. Would you sign this without the American people having had wide discussion over this and debate on–don’t you need approval of Congress? Would you just go ahead and sign this, because, after all, that’s one of our greatest contemporary enemies, is China?

          Clinton replied: Well, Sarah, I’m not sure I know the specific issue you’re referring to, but I….I would not make any agreements with China in secret and they would be subject to the knowledge of the Congress and the debate of the American people. We are trying to get to a point where we can work more closely with them and where they cooperate more closely with us so we’re trying to build the same kind of world in the future, and on a very different kind of world. And I hope we’ll get there.

          Her difficult-to-locate question to Bush in the 1992 interview was:
          “George Bush, what will the people do if they ever find out the truth about Iraq-gate and Iran contra?”
          Bush’s reply: “Sarah, if the American people ever find out what we have done, they will chase us down in the streets and lynch us.”

          Sarah McClendon also wrote this article on the UFO coverup:
          July 1, 1998
          From: Sarah McClendonWhite House Correspondent

          Washington, D.C. – Pressure is building up for Congress to give attention to the controversy over unidentified flying objects. With scientists from Stanford, MIT, Cornell, Princeton and elsewhere studying UFO evidence, the controversy is now being brought out into the open and heavy secrecy surrounding the subject is being lifted. Seminars on UFO evidence are being held periodically throughout the country with laymen discussing the evidence without fear of being ridiculed.

          When about 30 members of Congress or their staff heard a briefing on UFOs in April of 1997, Rep. Dan Burton, R., Ind. chairman of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee, displayed some interest in the matter. His committee has received a number of letters on the subject, according to staff member Matthew Ebert. “These letters are treated seriously,” he said. Ebert thinks there is a possibility congressional hearings will be held.

          At a May 11 hearing on human rights documents pertaining to Guatemala and Honduras held by the House subcommittee on Government Management Information and Technology, its chairman Rep. Steve Horn, R. CA, asked how the government classifies UFO documents. The two witnesses, Lee Strickland, chief of the Information Review Group of the Central Intelligence Agency and Steven Garfinkle, director of the Security and Oversight Group of the National Archives, both said they thought UFO documents should be considered as public information.

          There may be economic benefits from this emerging information. Dr. Steven Greer, an emergency room physician, who for eight years has briefed and been briefed by government and U.N. officials on the subject of unidentified objects in U.S. airspace, is convinced that the materials and technology of UFOs carry enormous benefits. For example, he says their energy creating apparatus does not use internal combustion.

          Greer asserts the financial and environmental cost of exploiting oil and gas to service 6 billion people worldwide can be dramatically reduced. Large scale energy production derived from UFO technology would reverse environmental damage and save hundreds of billions of dollars annually in direct costs.

          Dr. Greer is the International Director of the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence and leads a working team of around 200 composed of CSETI members and associates, government employee witnesses, consultants and government contacts. Their hope is to get congress to hold hearings and take testimony from witnesses. He has explained his conclusions to a number of congressional members.

          A national petition utilizing the Internet and calling for congressional hearings was launched last year by another group, Stargate International out of Tucson, Arizona. It has accumulated 20,000 + names to be presented to congress. A million signatures are sought.

          Greer is aware that many employees of the government keep secret facts which they have obtained about UFOs. He feels it is unconstitutional for government to bottle up information of this importance. He would like to see UFO’s openly discussed and covered widely in the press.

          For some years the belief has been widespread there is in the public domain a presidential executive order forbidding government employees from talking about UFOs. Dr. Greer is not aware of any such an executive order but indicated concern that secret executive orders have been issued and not disclosed to Congress or the public. Such secret orders would make it difficult for people to learn more about UFOs. From the White House it was learned that a check of executive orders going back to the early eighteen thirties shows none has been issued on this subject. Surprising is the growing number of citizens showing an interest in finding out more about UFOs. Seminars are being held around the country every week with as many as five and six hundred in attendance.

          202-483-3791 McClendon News Service, Inc. Fax: 202-328-1818
          Sarah McClendon is the Dean of the White House Press Corps
          (Found here)

          Here’s something Greer said about McClendon on the Art Bell show:
          “You know Bill Clinton leaned over and told Sarah McClendon, who hosted us at the National Press Club on May 9th – this is a story I haven’t told, and I’m going to tell you now. She told me this. Bill Clinton leaned over to her and said, because she brought up this issue to Bill Clinton saying, “Why don’t you do something about what Dr. Greer and this group are trying to do?” He bent over and he said, “Sarah, there’s a secret government within the government, and I don’t control it.”” (Found here)

          For more, just google her name, and plow your way through the first several hundred hits.

          Kat

          1. again, context?
            Kat, what that does have to do with my question?

            You can’t find the text of the interview, that is ok, it may not be available.

            But that the interviewer asks a lot of strange questions does not add anything to the discussion.

            Asking a lot of questions about UFOs and conspiracies does not add to a jourlanist’s credibility when they present out of context quotes.

            Do you disagree with that?

          2. context
            >>But that the interviewer asks a lot of strange questions does not add anything to the discussion. Asking a lot of questions about UFOs and conspiracies does not add to a jourlanist’s [sic] credibility when they present out of context quotes. Do you disagree with that?

            Yes, I disagree. First, the journalist isn’t the one who presented the quote out of context – about 5000 websites are guilty of that. And second, maybe there wouldn’t be so many conspiracy theories if other mainstream journalists had the balls to ask ‘strange questions’ – questions that anyone who frequents an alternative site such as TDG should be happy to have asked, and even happier to have honestly answered. And third, imho, providing an explanation of who the interviewer was, and giving some examples of her work, adds to what little we know about the context of the interviewer’s question and Bush’s answer, i.e. the Quote of the Day.

            The context of the Bush quote is somewhat clearer when paired with this long-term White House correspondent’s question about Iraq-gate and Iran Contra, although it’s still not clear that Bush, in his answer, was limiting himself to this particular subject, and it’s even less clear regarding the things the Bushes did that George H W Bush believed the American people, if they knew the truth, would surely lynch them for.

            Which brings me back to what I originally said about the quote sounding like the voice of a long-suppressed guilty conscience. Although I fulfilled your request for clarification, I had no illusions that my provision of this clearer context for the quote was likely to make a dent in any firmly closed minds. Even if Bush’s statement was strictly in reference to Iraq-gate and Iran Contra, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that you believe, rather than being good cause for a lynching (as Bush himself obviously believed), such illegal activities on Bush’s part were perfectly justified and proper.

            Kat

          3. context?
            I was specifically asking for the context of the quote, as in the sentences or words surrounding the statement of George H W Bush.

            You did not provide that context, and perhaps it is not available, or
            just not available with reasonable effort. That’s ok.

            I am simply saying that there is nothing useful to conclude about this quote. Apparently you disagree.

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