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Conspiracies? LOL Shut Up!

By red pill junkieon

Want to debunk or dismiss points of view and theories that go against your own beliefs, but are just too under-informed and/or lazy to do it properly? No problem! You just simply have to label your adversary as a ‘conspiracy theorist’ and Voilà! That poor tinfoil-hatter will be seen as a kook faster than he can yell “Trilateral Commission.”

Srsly though, we Grailers know that there are many stories and news which get covered in this site, and the fact that we link to them does *not* necessarily mean we endorse them or agree with them 100% of the time. TDG trusts in the intelligence of our members, yet we always remind them of our Caveat lector policy. We may end up agreeing to disagree, but that doesn’t give us the right to belittle people of different opinions.

Yet the fact of the matter is that recently the term ‘conspiracy theory’ has been weaponized by mainstream media, or even websites aspiring to go mainstream, because it’s easy to make fun of dissent than to give rational rebuttals.

Thus ‘conspiracy theory’ has turned into a blanket term in which EVERY dissenting or alternative thinking is piled up. So for example, if you have reasons to think genetically modified foods might not be as safe for consumption as the US Dept. of Health would have you believe, then by default you must also think all the governments in the world are controlled by shape-shifting Reptilians who used beam weapons and holograms of airplanes to take down the World Trade Center in 9/11, and are planning to deceive Humanity with a fake alien invasion designed to impose the New World OrderZOMGStartStockingUpTheBunker!!!

Maybe the way to stop this trend has to start with US in the alternative circles. We need to refrain of thinking that every. Single. Person! Who doesn’t happen to agree with us is a complete fool or a brain-washed drone. There’s a time for proselytizing, and there’s a time when you need to move to better things.

Always remember: Those in power will NEVER admit that they were ever wrong about anything –they’ll just quietly re-change their position hoping no-one ever noticed…

red pill junkie
Agnostic gnostic, walking conundrum & metaphysical oxymoron (with emphasis in the 'moron' part), the mysterious RPJ leaves a double life: By day he serves as Grand Master of the International Sacred Order of Lucha Libre, but at night he pursues his life-long study of everything considered mysterious and/or 'paranormal' --a term he personally detests... When he's not exploring the web looking for his daily fix of Forteana, he can be found blogging, doodling, fooling around and offering his services as news administrator and writer at The Daily Grail. He also regularly participates in other websites and podcasts like Radio Misterioso and Where Did the Road Go? He impatiently awaits for the return of the mothership in Mexico City. absurdbydesign.com
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24 Comments

  1. Hallelujah Brother
    Hallelujah Brother. A few days ago I bumped into American Heroes Channel on the telly as they ran a little piece attempting to debunk chemtrails. It was laughable how many times they kept saying that believers were “conspiracy theorists.” Over and over again they would remind the viewer that these people were conspiracy theorists, and just in case you might have forgotten again these people were conspiracy theorists, and by the way these people are conspiracy theorists.

    1. OK they were right that one time!
      😛

      You know I’m more skeptical about chemtrails than you, bro. But the point is that instead of discussing whatever evidence there may (or may not) be about them, if they were repeating the term ‘conspiracy theorists’ every 5 minutes or so, it shows the media is just not looking to inform the public, but to entertain it.

      In a sense, I get them. A young TV producer may have just a limited amount of hours in order to prepare a segment or episode. He or she doesn’t have the time to sift through all the information on the internet that either confirms or refutes the topic they want to present. So Googling ‘conspiracy theory’ saves you a lot of time and let’s you keep your schedule 😉

      1. So Many Conspiracies, So Little Time (Before the Tipping Point)
        Yes, the preferred weapon of pathological deniers!

        I haven’t looked into the chemtrail/contrail thing too deeply, but as someone with an engineering background it makes perfect sense to me. It’s a desperate measure to combat the Greenhouse Effect for sure, and not one that would be easy to get approved under public scrutiny. Or even under scientific scrutiny since many scientists would deny, deny, deny the need for it. The alternative is to not pollute so much, but we all know that’s not going to happen.

        The “Conspiracy Card” get used for so many other things these days. I have to deal with it in my chosen obsession with historical revisionism. Just mention that you think the dating is off and your ideas are immediately dismissed out-of-hand. This latest work I did on Alexander the Great was so refreshing, because it involved no chronology issues whatsoever. Of course, there are plenty of other aspects that will certainly be branded as conspiracy thinking. Oh well, there’s no getting away from it.

        1. One has only to consider a
          One has only to consider a few things – all the chemtrail planes are Boeing military tankers in white livery – none of them are commercial planes though the professional deniers want everyone to believe that. The planes fly crisscross patterns in front of weather fronts as they advance across the world – probably in order to help disperse the particulates, and the air sampled below a spray session is always extremely high in aluminum and barium nano particulates. The tankers can bee seen to turn the spay nozzles on and off mid flight, and when they have run out of spray material they will no longer be followed by a long contrail. As the return to base to reload on aerosol they are followed by a normal 30 plane length contrail.

          I am encouraged now by how many people have awakened to the op – all you really have to do is pay a little attention to the sky – the op is huge There is growing concern on the part of the military who is now having to publically deny the op – a sign that awareness has gone viral.

          Ex-Military Kristen Meghan blows the whistle about what happened to her when as a military requisitions officer she discovered vast quantities of aluminum powder being hidden in the budget:

  2. Conspiracy thinking
    What often looks like a conspiracy is a confluence of events that coincide in space and time, but have no correlation. The human brain is hard wired to see patterns, and we see them where in reality none exist (pareidolia is an example of visual pattern seeking). So we link things together to superimpose a pattern in order to explain events that baffle, frighten, or overwhelm us. It’s human nature as well as the genesis of conspiracy thinking in the face of the strange and inexplicable, events that turn our world upside down, or even when we feel personally thwarted by something bigger than ourselves.

    Some governments have made a religion of keeping secrets, far longer than needed and often for purely self-serving reasons (i.e., to cover up ineptitude and waste of taxpayer resources). The US is, I think, a prime offender. This government behavior is often seen as a conspiracy to cover up something far spookier and deadlier, rather than the stupidity or wastefulness it’s meant to hide (if there’s anything about 9/11 being covered up by a conspiracy, it’s the true depth of the stupidity of the US intelligence community). So I guess these are conspiracies of a sort, just not as glamorous as some of us want to believe.

    Yes, government has kept the pot boiling by dropping some ingredients into the stew, likely in order to cover clandestine military activities (e.g., a firefight at an underground alien base at Dulce, New Mexico). Only the gullible believe these tales, but the stories do work as a cover.

    Unfortunately, government conspiracy has been used as an underpinning for some extreme political views masquerading as libertarianism and patriotism. I think the conspiracy bias of the paranormal community has (intentionally or not) thrown fuel on that fire with its tendency to see a conspiracy hiding behind every tree.

    There’s a line between alternative thinking and an all-encompassing paranoid world view. Sometimes that line gets crossed is all I’m saying.

    1. Conspiracy Bias
      Fair points, that should be taken into account by all of us.

      Which doesn’t negate the fact that, for whatever reasons, governments and powerful groups love to keep things hidden from the public. And that labeling dissenting views ‘conspiracy theories’ that “only gullible people believe” –be that myths of underground alien bases, or unethical radiation experiments performed by the military— is now the trendiest way to belittle those on the other side of the argument.

      Thinking everything is a conspiracy is inadvisable; thinking there’s no such thing as conspiracies is foolhardy. After all, confirmation bias is just as powerful as negation bias 😉

        1. By all rights with the
          By all rights with the current weaponizing of the term “conspiracy theorist” some of the great historians should be labelled conspiracy theorists. Conspiracies are just a fact of life – people get together in secret to do bad things – they always have. What is different now is that some of the false flags to which we have been treated lately are incredibly heinous, so the stakes have risen hugely for the perpetrators. That is why there has been such a hullabaloo about it in recent times. As George Bush Sr. once said,

          “If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.”

          1. Choose Your Poison
            I don’t see that modern schemes are any different or more egregious than those in the past. (Sorry to keep harping on my new book, but it clearly demonstrates what human leadership is capable of achieving in terms of global totalitarianism.) America became a world power rather suddenly after World War II. The decision was made that American “thugs” had to be on par with the other “thugs” out there in the world. A group of leaders took it upon themselves to become the cabal that would project and protect American interests in the decades to come. It’s not that complicated. To some these people are heroes, because American thuggery may be preferable to other brands.

            Unfortunately, I don’t see a transition to more openness, but toward even greater secrecy and a de facto dictatorship by those who now control the military and the money. They won’t give that position up and can’t give it up. (As you say Emlong, the stakes are way too high now.) We can only hope to maintain the appearance of freedom and democracy. If we keep pretending to believe in Santa, we might keep getting presents.

          2. Of course, the main
            Of course, the main difference now is that people have the ability to share information and cross reference everything. The conspiracies may not be of greater magnitude all things considered, but the people can see much more deeply much more quickly. That is a big difference between now and the past. 9/11 is not maybe going to be busted. It is busted. Millions of people have looked into it at their fingertips on the net and seen the evidence which is enormous. I know so many people now who get it. The irony is that for many people now these are not “theories” – they are fact though the hired trolls are still trying to allege “theory.”

          3. Too Big of a Conspiracy to Fail
            The godson of Queen Elizabeth, John Harington, said:

            “If a conspiracy succeeds none dare call it conspiracy.”

            So, shut up, LOL.

          4. Ascendancy, Not Conspiracy
            Emlong, I don’t mean to make light of the 9-11 Truth Movement. I personally believe it was an inside job, but that conclusion isn’t based on an exhaustive study. I also don’t expect to get any official “Disclosure.” The Truth Movement is “Dead” in that respect. The common sense explanation of those events is as a shake-out among the American elites. Certain rival parties in the financial sector were to be taken down, hence the Twin Towers as the primary target. The second half of this end game was the great Wall Street “Bail Out,” which further secured the position of the favored financial houses and led to the demise of others. There was obviously some collateral damage, but the overall objective seems to have been achieved. Hence, there is really no point in trying to bring the winners to “justice.” That can’t happen and it’s not gonna happen. A battle occurred and now it’s over. Kingship has been successfully “carried off” by the champion. Long live the king.

          5. Deep journalism is not really
            Deep journalism is not really carried out in a spirit of winners and losers. It is simply ethical – ethics with no expectation of reward. Given how many people are aware now of the truth – that might erupt in entirely unexpected ways in the future at certain crisis points when things can go several ways. One might also argue that had there been no 9/11 truth busting there might have been much freer reign with false flag attacks than there has been. The game is by no means over and the “victors” are resting very uneasy. The planet is splitting into two large blocs rather than homogenizing as was planned, and in the opposing bloc – BRICSA – Russia is releasing huge loads of data about what actually transpired on 9/11 via its ever increasingly popular news Channel RT. Russia sure as hell hasn’t given up on the subject of 9/11 truth. That may even be the main reason the west is trying to goad them into conflict.

          6. Zeitgeist
            Investigative journalism has been “Dead” for a long time now. (Thanks to RPJ, this is my favorite expression now!)

            9-11 fits the classic “Machiavellian” ploy of an attack on one rival that is blamed on another. In this case, those in charge of the Military-Industrial Complex (or something along those lines) attacked the Financial Sector and blamed it on Terrorism. In other words, the people with the weapons and technology and intelligence capabilities destroyed the Tower(s) of Babel of the pencil-necked bankers and blamed it on Al-Qaeda. That not only cowed the Financial Sector, but allowed the Military-Industrial Complex to pursue its foreign agenda.

            The Bailout of 2008 is not quite as obvious. One way of looking at it is as a vendetta for 9-11. That is, the financial houses demanded blackmail/hush money. More likely, the major Wall Street players had already been reigned in. All that the Bailout accomplished was to make the biggest banks (which were also in the biggest trouble at the time) even bigger. Rolling Stone Magazine did a penetrating article on this:

            http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/secret-and-lies-of-the-bailout-20130104

            So, with the Bailout the entire power apparatus appears to be operating in unison. The people with the trillions handed out some billions to the Financial Sector, which was consolidated and is now firmly under their thumb. That kind of “solidarity” at the top would certainly give other cabals cause to pause and think. For the rest of us, the proper response is to pretend that “The Power” hasn’t fully disclosed the extent of its control. We need to go to the polls on Tuesday, vote for whoever and whatever, and then go home and watch re-runs of Hangar1. That is the extent of our democracy! The few people that know how to interpret events have no ability to galvanize the multitudes that remain brain dead. And it may be that what is, is best, anyway! True democracy on a large scale has probably never existed and the little bit we have enjoyed is rapidly killing the planet.

            To point, I can’t even give away my work on the history of world domination by the royal family much less sell it! And even on a site like TDG who is even interested in reading it? We want to know but we are conditioned to not know. It’s a survival instinct.

          7. 9/11 was a trough at which
            9/11 was a trough at which many piggies fed in unison. My first impression of 9/11 was that it was timed to avert a major depression in the stock market. You may recall that in August and September of 2001 the DOW was at 6500 and falling. You could hear commentators on the MSM daring to use the “D word. Everyone in the financial community as terrified. BY 2001 it was obvious that Asia and India were gutting the US manufacturing base, and it was really taking a toll. 9/11 provided cover and an excuse to let free money loose in the economy in an attempt to shore it up. It worked – sort of – for about 8 years, and then the can kicked down the road could no longer be kicked any more.
            The Globalists may have a master plan, but it is by no means certain of working. I don’t think that anyone is sitting atop a pile of certainty about how to manage the planet. No one has “won” anything yet. The whole thing is still a house of cards perched on an Everest of derivatives.

            And yes, Virginia, there is still a possibility of rescinding The Patriot Act. Churchill didn’t give up – the German resistance didn’t give up – even when it seemed all was lost. Fate has a way of turning on a dime in most unexpected ways especially when the underlying conditions are so shaky.

          8. Tiptoeing Through the Tulips
            Good points.

            I came across this list of 10 winners and losers of 9-11. It is somewhat revealing but doesn’t attempt to identify the “script writers” of course. When a group decides to cross the Rubicon (or “Event Horizon” if you will) of world domination, there is no turning back. The choice is one of asserting your leadership or letting another group do it instead. Democracy doesn’t stand a chance.

            http://www.rferl.org/content/winners_and_losers_list/24321228.html

            Not sure which option is the most/least disturbing:

            a) a group is in control and can act decisively, or

            b) there is no one at the wheel and everyone is reacting/adapting.

            Historically, the answer to a looming crisis was to start another war. When the royal family was in charge, world wars were scheduled on a regular basis. The question is: Are we still basically operating under that royal model or not? That model was more about “making things happen.” Have we evolved to “letting things happen” and then capitalizing on them? I’m leaning toward the first option as still being predominant.

            The royal family was running a Pyramid/Ponzi scheme. They understood that any economy based on this model would eventually collapse. Once a base of operations (Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, etc.) had been fully exploited it was time to bring it down and establish a “New World Order” using a new base and compliant people. A natural disaster often precipitated the move, e.g., a flood or extreme drought, but they were prepared to create a disaster if necessary. A “controlled demolition” ensured that the same leaders (i.e., the one royal family) would still be in charge when the dust settled.

            We are already seeing this happening as American companies have turned into Global companies that are now headquartered outside the country. However, it’s not so easy to create a new nation “under God” as it was back in the day! The elites find themselves replacing the Twin Towers with “One World Trade Center” still in New York. So, it will be “interesting” to see what happens next to keep the pyramid scheme going, or if a genuine New World Order is the solution this time. Possibly they have been expecting some natural catastrophic event before initiating the New World Order script. Maybe they don’t know what year it is in the Mayan Calender either, haha!

          9. I remember that
            I remember that Losers/Winners article which was written in 2011. Since then I would say that list would need revision. None of those losers and winners are necessarily permanently winning and losing.

            Looming large on such a list should be the US government’s trustworthiness index which has plummeted after a brief rally just after 9/11. I have seen polls that at least half the country thinks the US government is not telling the whole truth about 9/11.

          10. The Lost Bankers of Israel

            http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/tag/freedom-tower/

            Here’s a really cool site that overlays the Constellation of Orion onto the New York Financial (“Temple”) District, among other things.

            In the Book of Genesis, God scattered those building the Tower of Babel, because he didn’t want them to be concentrated in one place, but instead scattered over the entire earth in advance of the Great Flood. Surprisingly, this was done so that more people might survive the disaster rather than the human race being totally wiped out. (Due to the recursive structure of the Book of Genesis, the deeper understanding of this passage is that the Tower of Babel event was a recurring event in history, and it continues to this day. Knowledge increases and mankind builds lofty structures only to be slapped down by the next disaster.)

            Destruction of the Twin Towers by someone (or group) clearly claiming to be in the place of God would have signaled a financial diaspora, which did in fact occur. However, the expected cataclysm did not take place. Could this be why One World Trade Center is now being constructed, and in a location that is deliberately suggestive of the Giza Pyramid Triad? Was it necessary for a “do over?” Have the “rebellious bankers” been called home?

          11. I know these people play
            I know these people play occult games. I have decided to laugh at them rather than give them the energy of attention and fear. As the saying goes the best thing you can do with the Devil is laugh at him/her.

          12. “Sacred Landscape” of Manhattan
            Spoken like a true Gnostic, haha.

            From what I gather, One World Trade Center is scheduled for opening this week!

          13. Maybe it needs to be repeated
            Maybe it needs to be repeated here that we are not grasping for obscure conspiracies here. That a bunch of Arabs who were terrible pilots did things with Boeings that most pilots would tell you are extremely difficult to do just jumps out a you. You don’t have to go poking around to see it. Same with chemtrails – the op is out in the open, and literally in your face. These are both laughably obvious conspiracies. That doesn’t mean everyone will get it because many people don’t want to get it in the first place, but this is low hanging fruit here. We are not having to tweek the evidence to suit our “conspiratorial nature.” Before the Murrah building op I didn’t pay much attention to conspiracies, but the internet very rapidly brings to the fore certain facts that are incontrovertible. That has been the difference – that and the fact that some really nasty psychopaths are loose in the land now. That is why there are so many “conspiracy theorists” now. What they really are is journalists doing what we used to pay them to do – look.

          14. Signing Off
            You tawlkin’ ta me? haha

            I study the ancient world and pay relatively little attention to current events. Yet, it does still seem obvious that the more things change the more they stay the same. The royal family had an occult fixation on the repetition of patterns. This was a form of magic that ensured the success of their enterprise and also served to legitimize their rule. This mentality is evidently still with us.

            I’m about to pull all my material off the Internet. After 15 years on the web, it’s been a royal waste of time. This world is so locked down that nothing I say on my own is going to have any impact. It’s time to face the facts. They are the “good guys” that have custody of the planet. We are the “bad guys” whose main concern is our next meal.

          15. Your thesis exists in a sea
            Your thesis exists in a sea of internet information that is overwhelming, plus no one expects to have to pay for the information. You have the same problem the music industry has now – how to make money on content. You shouldn’t give up though – your thesis has merit no matter what.

          16. Merit Doesn’t Matter
            The goal was never to make money, but to gain an understanding. I’ve been on the web since 1999 (when the web wasn’t so crowded) and have been freely sharing everything I’ve learned. But, it’s time to take a new approach or just leave the heavy lifting to others.

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