Click here to support the Daily Grail for as little as $US1 per month on Patreon

News Briefs 08-06-2009

TDG – the remedy for your comparatively antidilluvian education.

Quote of the Day:

Adverse childhood experience is one of the largest contributors to such chronic health problems as diabetes and obesity, psychiatric disorders, drug abuse – almost every major public health challenge we face.

The authors of a study published June 2 in The Journal of the American Medical Association.

    1. 😛
      >> Kat just redefined the word “brief”…

      again. 🙂

      But don’t get used to it — I’m still feeding a sick cat every few hours around the clock.

  1. Mayan demise
    The Mayan empire did fall of course. But there are plenty of Mayan people, even today, and they speak Mayan languages.

    —-
    It is not how fast you go
    it is when you get there.

    1. WHAT Mayan empire?
      There’s this general misconception that the Mayans had a vast empire that extended from Southeast Mexico to Central America.

      In reality, one should think of the Mayans as having several ‘city-states’, not unlike the great ancient cities you find in Greece —e.g. Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, etc.

      So no, there was no great Mayan emperor who commanded all those territories. At least, none that we have a record of.

      No Mayan Tutankhamen, but perhaps several Leonidas 😉

      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

      1. less demise
        Thanks for the correction. I just wanted to make the point that these people are still here.

        There is also a misconception that all the older civilizations, like the Maya or the Greek, were a bunch of really nice, peaceful, educated people. For the most part they were controlled by really mean people, with no respect for life.

        Having said that, it is a serious loss that most of the writing of the meso-american cultures has not survived.

        —-
        It is not how fast you go
        it is when you get there.

        1. Sorry
          My comment came out too snobbish for my own taste 🙂

          You’re absolutely right, we had this romantic notion of the Mayas that has now turned 180° “thanks” to films like Apocalypto —which obviosuly also brings a skewed vision of this ancient culture.

          The truth is, these pople had a very different notion about the value of life. For them it was all part of a big cosmological machinery, with the upper class controlling the levers, and the lesser folks being nothing but mere cogs.

          So I’m so glad that 500 years later things have ch… Oh, f*%k! 🙁

          —–
          It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
          It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

          Red Pill Junkie

          1. apocalypto
            Apocalypto got some things wrong.

            For one thing, there is a solar eclipse and a full moon in the same day. That is rather unlikely. Poetic license I suppose, and lack of understanding or lunar orbits.

            There are other common misconceptions about history. Take the case of the Vikings. The common view is that they were active traders and raiders (as in: traders who don’t pay you). And that they were active from the 700s to the 1000s or so, give or take a hundred years. Then they went away, or went out of business.

            But apart from Scandinavia where they came from, they are still in business, in Iceland, and in the kingdom of the Rus.

            The Romans are not gone. They are in Italy of course, and in Romania.

            And so on.

            And you are correct with the value of life. In some of the rich societies, life is valued very highly. Unless of course you deal in drugs or such things. Middle east, China, Afghanistan, most of Africa, biker gangs in Florida?

            —-
            It is not how fast you go
            it is when you get there.

          2. Maya
            we had this romantic notion of the Mayas that has now turned 180° “thanks” to films like Apocalypto…

            No, we knew this a long time before Apocalypto, RPJ. The breakthrough came a century ago when archaeologists and explorers discovered murals depicting savage and brutal violence and human sacrifice, which shocked civilised Europe who had been led to believe the Maya lived in utopia. Another breakthrough came in the 1970s, when translators cracked Mayan hieorglyphics. Apocalypto brought a human face to a culture that, in popular media, is considered extinct and only consists of ruined stone temples buried in jungle.

            One thing does remain constant, however, and that is people’s complete ignorance of the fact Mayan people survive to this day, and Mayan dialects are still spoken. But deforestation, industry, and population encroachment is threatening their communities.

          3. Popular versus Academic
            You’re right Rick. The discovery of the Bonampak mural, the cracking of the Maya hieroglyphics by people like Linda Schelley, and the finding of human remains at the bottom of sacred Cenotes, was what convinced Academics that their notions about Mayan culture needed some serious revising.

            But these are not things most common folks are aware of.

            What I meant to say is that, in the mind of the public, films like Apocalypto or Braveheart or whatever, are the cultural elements by which they begin to form their concepts about things. I know this is not a good thing, but it’s an undeniable fact that a movie will have more weight than a book, at the moment of forcing people to form an opinion about something.

            So, in the mind of the public, the Mayas were transformed from this idyllic peaceful culture of scholars and astronomers, to blood-thirsty savages who incredibly-enough happened also to know how to build Bad-ass pyramids 🙂

            And now the public is going to have another misconception about the Mayan culture because of all the flooding of 2012-related movies coming to a theater near you in the coming months.

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

  2. Here we go again…
    [quote]”This research has already been of interest to pharmaceutical companies that are looking to extract alkaloids from plants that were important to the ancient Maya.”[/quote]

    Hmmm, I wonder how much money these pharmaceutical companies are planning to give to the descendants of the Maya in return.

    Me and my impertinent questions!

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

  3. The Price of Space
    By now I’m so used to eating sh*t everyday that, for the privilege of weightlessness & observing the curvature of the Earth, the prospect of drinking rat piss doesn’t really seem that high a price 🙂

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

    1. clean steams and rivers
      For all the folks, in the Green community, who want to only use clean water. From the natural sources of rivers and creeks and such.

      Do they not realize that this water is full of shit from fish, snails, otters, birds, lovely furry animals and such?

      Nevermind the humans who live upstream from you.

      Do they really believe that fish do not defecate ?

      If we recycle waste water, we have good information on what is firletered out, and what is not.

      If we use “fresh” water, we have no stinking idea. And I do mean “stinking”, because often it does stink, and we don’t know why.

      —-
      It is not how fast you go
      it is when you get there.

    1. idle brains
      >> I would suggest calling politicians. Most of them don’t appear to be using theirs.

      Sure they are — just not in their constituents’ interest.

      Which is why it wouldn’t fuss me if they were to all donate their brains to science immediately. 😉

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Mobile menu - fractal