News Briefs 09-10-2008

"Will brief news for food" :-(

Big thanks to Rick, Kat & Greg

Quote of the Day:

(On the defense of Oil companies):"Many people talk about loving the planet, but how many of them actually PENETRATE it"

Stephen Colbert

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Rick MG's picture
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red pill junkie wrote:

"Will brief news for food" :-(

Maybe Greg could pay us news admin with food stamps?

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Rick MG wrote:

Maybe Greg could pay us news admin with food stamps?

Let them eat books!

Kind regards,
Greg
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For anyone seeking a balance between the need for brain candy and the need to keep body and soul together, Amazon.com also sells groceries.

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Note that this service is in the beta testing stage.
So would you be beta testing the service, or the food?

Oh I better add the

:)

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it is when you get there.

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Greg wrote:

Let them eat books!

Recycled paper only, I'm on a health kick.

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As a ex-draftsperson I am very pleased that I didn't have to do the working drawings for this house!! What a night-mare! I'd love to know what the materials were that were used to build it. Concrete? Fibreglass? Ordinary house-building materials just wouldn't do the job.

Regards, Kathrinn

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You'd be surprised how easy it is nowadays to undertake such complex projects with the help of CAD software. Personally, if it not were for this little machine in front of me, I would have never endured so much on the Constructions business! I HATED drawing plans when I was in college, I was too clumsy and dirty. And if you had to modify the project? ARRRRRGH!!!

Now, about the Quetzalcoátl building, it says here in a magazine I bought that it was made with a tubular structure of a ferrocement composite. The glazed tiles that cover the body of the snake like reptile scales were placed by hand. And the windows were custom-made too.

The architect, Javier Senosiain, has always advocated for an 'organic Architecture'. You can find more about his work here.

I like his style. It reminds me of Gaudí :-)

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What in the world is a 'ferrocement composite'?

Do you know if these 'tubular structures' are available in pre-formed sections that you, somehow, join together? That sure would make construction easier and faster -- and possibly a lot cheaper than conventional construction. I wonder how they cut the window openings?

No disrespect to Quetzalcoátl, but do you think you could run most of the tube through a small hill, to create a nice cozy hobbit house instead? If so, that would eliminate the expense of the tile and tilers, which might offset the added expense of hiring an earth-mover pre- and post- construction.

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From Wikipedia:

Ferrocement is a composite material which is used in building or sculpture with cement, sand, water and wire or mesh material—often called a thin shell in North America.

Ferrocement has great strength and economy. It is fireproof, earthquake safe and does not rust, rot or blow down in storms. It has a broad range of applications which include home building, creating sculptures, repair of existing artifacts and building boats and ships.

I'm not familiar with this particular construction process, but I think it's pretty similar to fiberglass. You need a mesh or matrix material (the fiberglass or the chicken wire) and a bonding coalescent material (polyester resin or cement), so you can make any shape you want.

You could make a boat with ferrocement, but it would sink :-)

And yes, the forms are pre-cast, and assembled on-site.

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No disrespect to Quetzalcoátl, but do you think you could run most of the tube through a small hill, to create a nice cozy hobbit house instead? If so, that would eliminate the expense of the tile and tilers, which might offset the added expense of hiring an earth-mover pre- and post- construction.

You could probably do a Hobbit torus! Frankly the material offers limitless possibilities.

The tile I think not only adds a nice aesthetic effect, but it might also function as a thermal insulating material. That's just me speculating, but it makes sense.

It would be great if they could automate the process more, so you could lower the artisan work and make things cheaper and more affordable.

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Thanks RPJ - makes perfect sense now you mention it - should have thought of that myself!

Incidentally, ferro-cement boats don't sink - a type of cement called Pozzolan is used, it's very light, the resultant structure very strong and marine termites break their teeth trying to chew holes in it! The first one in Oz was humourously dubbed the "floating footpath". I think it won a Sydney to Hobart race, too.

Regards, Kathrinn