the significance of the number eleven

I was looking into the number 11. I found some stuff on it, but I also found some stuff about time and brain activity. I found it interesting and I thought I would share it here.
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"About number 11 - 11 is double digit and is therefore considered a Master or Power Number. In Numerology - 11 represents impractical idealism, visionary, refinement of ideals, intuition, revelation, artistic and inventive genius, avant-garde, androgynous, film, fame, refinement fulfilled when working with a practical partner. Eleven is a higher octave of the number two . It carries psychic vibrations and has an equal balance of masculine and feminine properties. Because eleven contains many gifts such as psychic awareness and a keen sense of sensitivity, it also has negative effects such as treachery and betrayal from secret enemies.

Many associate 11:11 with a wake-up code/alarm as they see it on digit clocks and watches. It can also be seen as a key to unlock the subconscious mind - our genetic encoded memories ... that we are spirits having a physical experience - not physical beings embarking on a spiritual experience.

11:11 - or derivatives of these numbers - 111 and 11 - are digits that repeat in time - thus a metaphor for reality as patterns that repeat in time for us to experience. This can refer to the rise and fall of civilizations - our personal experiences and lessons - loops in time - whatever - they are cycles of time that create and recreate following the blueprint."

Now this next part was what brought me in the most, the message I got from it was that time really did not exist- they talked about brain activity in this one.
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"Ellie and 11:11 .... In 1991 - when I was hosting the talk show "The Metaphysical Experience" - a woman named Solara was my guest. Her topic was Activation of the 11:11 Doorway. It was all about ascension and the beginning of awareness of the 11:11 code. In 1995 - a Crystalinks' reader named Joe emailed about his experiences with the numbers 111:111 - hence the file you are reading was first created - and in so doing I took a long hard look at this phenomena experienced by those around me - oddly not part of my triggering. Each time Joe was about to go through another major spiritual awakening - an epiphany of some kind - those numbers would appear in his physical experience to signal the upcoming change. The numbers say, "Pay attention!"

We all have one or more numeric codes that follow the blueprint of Sacred Geometry. It is about the spiraling of consciousness - Phi - Fibonacci - Golden Mean Spiral - found in perfection, in the exact porportions in the Great Pyramid - as a reminder of 12 around 1 (source) that create our reality. Reality - the spiral of consciousness as if through a slinky toy - or cones - through many levels of experience - at the same time - for the soul. The spiral gives the illusion of time - but once in meditation or dream state - or beyond the slinky - your frequency is too high - moving too fast - beyond linear time and space."

^IMO Tool was inspired by this... maybe. They talked about a interview back in 1995, I'm not sure of when Tool had come out and made it big, but I'm almost sure it was after 1995 so this could have been a influence to them?

Also if anyone knows anything about the brain activity they are talking about, and whether or not it relates to telekinesis I would like to know.
But the main discussion I would like to have is on this special number 11- whether it is a theory or a reasonable fact and not coincidence.

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Crowley had a certain affinity for 11, and I understand it figures into Thelema. The Dagobert's Revenge crew have written about the esoteric significance of 11. And I'm pretty sure there is a book out there about the lore of 11.

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is a number that catches my eye almost everytime it comes up on a clock. Even before 9-11 there was 11:11 and it is a number of mastery. It may be the number that forms our time.
I also see it as something other then 11, I also see it as a roman numeral, or as to sticks or lines denoting 2 . And also as the 2 halfs of the whole. 2 poles and the space between them .

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this is interesting:

"or as to sticks or lines denoting 2 . And also as the 2 halfs of the whole. 2 poles and the space between them."

I don't think I can vouge with the illustration of two poles, because eleven is parallel. 69 is the opposite of itself, and I believe this is one of the perfect numbers. I need to get my copy of liber 777 book out and look it up. As for "or as to sticks or lines denoting 2," I think that has a very viable point to it, and I like that. I first began to research the number was when I heard Jimmy by Tool.

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What was it like to see the face of your own stability suddenly look away leaving you with the dead and hopeless? Eleven and she was gone. Eleven is when we waved good-bye. Eleven is standing still, waiting for me to free him by coming home. Moving me with a sound. Opening me within a gesture. Drawing me down and in, showing me where it all began, Eleven. It took so long to realize that you hold the light that's been leading me back home. Under a dead Ohio sky, defending his light, and wondering... where the hell have I been? Sleeping, lost, and numb. So glad that I have found you. I am wide awake and heading home. Hold your light, Eleven. Lead me through each gentle step by step by inch by loaded memory. I'll move to heal as soon as pain allows so we can reunite and both move on together. Hold your light, eleven. Lead me through each gentle step by step by inch by loaded memory 'till one and one are one, eleven, so glow, child, glow. I'm heading back home.

Your own hypothesis ties in with the "till one and one are one" line, and I had pondered that myself.

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I have been baffled for over 2 years now, that every time I look at a clock, (9 times out of 10) it has the number 11. I see all around the clock… 9:11, 3:11, all combinations morning or afternoon and evenings.

What does this mean. It kind of freaks me out.

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That's why I stopped using wrist watches a LONG time ago :)

Seriously, why don't you do the experiment? Stop wearing your watch for a week. Instead rely on your cell phone, your computer clock, or a polite stranger, to know the time. There are enough clocks out there as it is, always reminding us that
we have allowed ourselves to be enslaved by time.

Maybe your obsession with the number 11 will dissipate if you stop expecting it to occur.

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Many moons ago, I was in high school (yes I graduated) and I had a digital watch.

Quite often I found the time to be 11:11 in the morning. Perhaps because around that time I was getting bored, I forget what class it was. Not the same topic every day.

But - there was a big break at 11:20. Also I have a habit of waking up a few minutes before my alarm clock sounds. So I attribute this to my internal clock.

And then, 100 divided by 9 is 11.11111111111111.........
with an infinite number of 11s. Is this kind of infinity odd or even? There is more kind of infinity in the mathematical sense, which has nothing to do with this topic.

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I gave up wearing a watch over a decade ago. Don’t need one. It goes well with my philosophy of always being late.

I saw this and found it quite fascinating. My interest in numbers only started growing a couple of years ago. Especially with the birth of my first child as I am going to have to teach him maths! (Something I’m going to have to teach myself a little better first).

Firstly an honest question: Being a budding guitarist I also enjoy delving into music theory (which I like even more for how mathematical it is). In the first post it says that ‘Eleven is a higher octave of the number two’. An octave is 8 (hence Oct, from Octo). How do you get an octave above 2 being 11? There are different scales that call themselves octave, but non feature the numbers required to get to 11 from 2. I was just wondering as I can’t figure it out.

My point of view will differ a little here. I see numbers as incredible ‘magical’ things, but a little bit differently to numerology, which seems like an ancient way of paying homage to them to me.

I’m going to mention a dirty word here.
Anthropomorphisation!

Numbers are real entities that exist outside of human existence. They are not so much what the world is built out of as an expression of the realities and properties that exist between things. However the shapes we give to what we mean by ‘numbers’ are very much a part of human existence, not the universes. Hence the number 11 has no more meaning to the property of 11 than the lines we put on a piece of paper. Many symbols have been used to reflect the property of 11. We now use the Arabic, but if the Romans had won out then we would be using XI.

Even if you accept that it is the numericals for the property of eleven that are striking you could still argue that behind this there is a real representation of the property of eleven given by 10+1, but remember that this is only counting in base10, if you count in base16 (hexadecimal) then 11 becomes the letter B. We count in base 10 because it is easy for our brains and fingers. Other civilisations haven’t counted in base10. As far as reality goes all are equal as all are just a human method of counting and don’t actually do anything to the universe other than arbitrarily refer to its properties in ways which are easy for human brains to use (computers use base2- binary and convert for us so we can understand them, eleven in binary is 1011, pronounced one, zero, one, one).

The numerals 69 are opposite of themselves, but the actual property of 69 is the opposite of nothing except perhaps -69.

This is too esoteric a way to describe either reality or aspects of it in a productive way for me.

So now we are left not with the question of why the property of eleven is important, but why the shape of the numerals 11 is.

Regarding perception of the number 11

As it is a brain process we should look at evolution for some answers. Evolution doesn’t create perfect solutions, just the best available hodge potch solution (hence why our bodies crumble after reproductive age, why we get cancer, why our light receptors in our eyes are wired backwards).

We have evolved structures in our brains that process the visual information from our eyes. These structures evolved in different circumstances to the modern world; what you could call a more ‘natural’ environment. I.e. with more natural shapes, such as organic curves and flowing shapes. Things which the brain doesn’t expect jump out at us. Perfectly straight edges, in particular if they are parallel are not experienced often in nature and seem unnatural to us. They leap out.

I would say that it is not the property of eleven that is important, but the current shape of the numerals we assign to that number, which is a quirk of history and geography really. I had an interesting conversation with an Arab in Saudi Arabia when I worked there a while ago. He told me why the numbers have the shapes they do. If you look at the number 1 it has one straight line with another line coming off at an angle at the top, so one angle equals the number one (ignore the basal line!). The number 2, originally written more like Z has two angles so represents two. He wrote the number 3 more pronounced than the modern version with all its curves.

All this together puts a picture together for how the graphics of 11 can jump out at us. Synesthesia is a good example of how the brain processes numerical information and how scrambling in the brain can produce some odd effects and is particularly fascinating.

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I also see it as something other then 11, I also see it as a roman numeral, or as to sticks or lines denoting 2 . And also as the 2 halfs of the whole. 2 poles and the space between them.

All these descriptions sound a lot like the brain processing it in different ways and passing multiple experiences of 11 to the conscious mind. Some bits sound a little like when the brains model of the experience of 11 shifts, much like an optical illusion flicking between 2 candles and a face as the brain alternatively ‘sees’ each and adjusts its model making us feel surprised or even queasy.

Regarding the possibility that the number 11 is an omen of evil things like 9:11

Human belief creates human reality (until the universe nods its own in with an asteroid or supernova). If human beings see the number 11 as significant then that can make it significant. Things like the current terrorist attacks often have more than just a political belief as one of their factors and even if it is not the main reason it can go on to control the methods and timing of events. If 11 is important in astrology then you can explain a lot of history with it. Tying it in with moon cycles might also help explain some things. In this way human belief controls human actions, in fact I have heard belief described as ‘action in potentia’, which is as good a way of describing it as I have ever heard.

This is why if your on a path to try and understand not the human part of life, but the universal aspect, historical coincidences need to be approached carefully to try and gauge at what level they are part of the universe and at what level they are part of the effect of human ideas on history. You are correct in saying that occurrences in history are not coincidence, but as to whether they are a part of the universes fabric is another question for a bigger subject, most often they are down to interpretation of the fabric.

It definitely isn’t a reasonable fact, but that doesn’t mean it is a coincidence either. I don’t think it is a coincidence, but those are not the only possibilities. Like many things it can be real and important and not real at the same time. Take money for an example, completely real, but not real in the universes sense, not a part of the laws of nature. It is here because we are here and if we are wiped out then it disappears.

Just in case it really is tied into the universe at a more fundamental level though I checked the number 11 against the universal physical constants, the real building blocks and forces of our universe.

The number 11 as a sign of the existence of the properties of 10+1 in the building blocks of the universe appears 10 times out of the 326 universal constants. Therefore it constitutes a part of 3.07%, of the building blocks, but this is just an occurrence of it anywhere in the number to 10 or 11 significant figures. So as far as the universe is concerned it is small fry.

Now try 3.14159, you could spend your life investigating that number!

Having said all that about the reality of the number 11’s importance I’d like to go back to its importance to us. One plus one, plus one is the current number of my family, although it is currently really one plus one, plus one, plus one in the oven. The confluence of all these ones is very meaningful to me. I’m not sure I’d like my family to go up to 11 though! The advantage of being human and not a plant is that we can define how important anything is too us. The letters that make up my fiancée’s name have taken on added meaning to me, as have the ones for my son. My birthday numbers have added meaning as does mine and my partner’s anniversary. Perhaps in my science classes I have been taught a type of social numeracy where all numbers are equal and all as important.

I’ll finish there but just add a bit about time, which is a subject I love as it really puts us in our place, and its pretty much impossible to understand the universe if you don’t understand time.

I have had to go back and re-read some general relativity to picture this, so you’ve got my head aching!

There are some numbers that are very very important in dealing with time, that form part of its backbone as it were, well actually part of the universes. They are all a lot bigger than 11 though! In fact having stuck my head back into the equations of relativity it takes a stretch of the imagination to visualise any number having a single importance and anything short of either immensely large or minuscule falls well short of the mark.

The most important constant seems to be 299792458, which I’ll leave you to find if you don’t recognise it already.

I once found an equation to work out time in kilometres instead of seconds, which gives an insight into what time is. You could put into it your current time and position, then put into it the time you were going to be somewhere and the relative position and hay presto, it chucked out how many kilometres that location was across the 4 dimensional surface of spacetime. I worked out the local post office the next afternoon and it was billions of kilometres away. Nice!

Time and gravity are highly related through the topology of 4 dimensional spacetime. A nice example of gravity and the surface of this spacetime is the explanation of why gravity pulls you downwards. When you roll a ball down a hill it goes that way because it is the shortest direct path between A and B. But this is only the surface of the answer. The reason it takes that path is obviously gravity, but the reason gravity makes it take that path is because the shortest distance between now and the future will drag you downwards in a gravity well, so it takes something like the ground to hold you up against the force of gravity that will try and make you take the shortest distance in meters into the future.

If nothing else the above shows how space and time are part of the same structure and if you can see the conclusions of this argument you will be able to see that the number of meters, i.e the distance in time that we all take into the future is relative to each other and that we all take different routes into the future. Amazingly this has been tested and confirmed. Welcome to the scientific universe!

I can find no reference to the property of 11 as a building block for all this. I gave it a go though!

Thanks

Ben

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Base 10 is easy for those of us who count on their fingers, although I have seen people get it wrong. One of the people who got it wrong quite often was a remarkably pretty waitress, who was also a SAG member.

Base 20 went out of style (some remnants are there in the french language), possibly because people started wearing shoes.

Base 2 is simple for electronics of course, base 16 is nice because base 2 is very hard to read for reasonably large numbers. Chunking doesn't work with base 2.

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For example, I'm twenty-fifteen years old ;-)

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:) Now i think about it didnt Tolkien make Bilbo eleventy one years old!

There was something i read a few weeks ago about how the brain does maths. It broke things down into two rough systems saying roughly that we are born with an Approximate Number Sense, which is what we use to guess how many objects are in a group etc. Then there is the principle of the Number Line, which is what we learn to apply to our approximate number sense.

Interestingly different cultures have different versions of the Number Line. In western culture it is how we are familiar with it, a string of positive and negative numbers increasing sequentially, but there are cases where human groups have learned such versions as a logarithmic sense of the Number Line.

When we see 5 objects we place them between 1 and 10, but with a logarithmic Number Line 5 is placed closer to 10 than 1 when an estimate is performed. I found this interesting as it shows how plastic even are basic mental capacities are.

There was another graph that plotted this Approximate Number Sense against brain complexity and size (through mammalian and bird evolution) and compared it to different animals today. There was a good correspondence between evolution and the development of an increasing ability by the approximate number sense.

On average we are accurate to about 5-6 items using our approximate number sense. Less than this is easy, more is a bit harder. Many more is very hard to get right without counting and eventually it becomes impossible (unless they are organised into groups smaller than our ANS limit, like groups of 4 or 5- 10 might be ok as we can see into the group and classify into units below the ANS limit, then we start counting using the Number Line)

The ability of the number sense to immediately identify the correct number of items in a group relates to the average family size of the species. The more babies a group has on average the more pressure there is on the approximate number sense to evolve to correctly identify the number of offspring, so the animal doesn't lose any i guess.

I'll see if i can find some links if people want, but it was a while ago. Even still its fascinating.

Ben

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The numerals 69 are opposite of themselves, but the actual property of 69 is the opposite of nothing except perhaps -69.

And me thinking that the opposite of 69... was a cold shower :-P

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Ha ha!!! Very true! And there was me staying away from any 69 jokes ;)

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Out of respect for the general public, I will not make any base-11 jokes, or any base-10.5 jokes.

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