Why is GW Bush Above the Law?
Posted by shadowmom at 19:32, 19 Sep 2005Once again, I’m sharing an editorial I wrote that asks what the hell is wrong with America….the pundits, the press, and the public at large? Four major investigations by INDEPENDENT commissions and/or prosecutions should have been launched and impeachment hearings should have been called long ago
And no, Pat Fitzgerald who is investigating the Plame leak, however honest, is NOT independent. Ken Starr was an Independent Counsel. Pat is a Special Prosecutor employed by the US Department of Justice…and got the job because Ashcroft was hammered into recusing himself. He still reports directly to Gonzales’ people.
Bottom line: Bushco got in the way of the law every time…and succeeded. Go figure. Read it all (continued on the site) and understand how powerless we really are….
Why Is George W. Bush Above the Law?
No man is above the law and no man is below it; nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it. Theodore Roosevelt
THE BRAVADO
Once again, a massive failure of leaderships has been displayed in Washington. And, once again, George Bush has escaped an independent inquiry into his in irresponsible actions. For the fourth time in less than five years, the President of the United States and his cohorts been placed above the law. That, in itself, is a major American disaster.
When, if ever, could this have happened before? When else could one administration have pulled off four major scandals, - four devastating, potentially impeachable screw-ups, and never have to answer for them? When else, in the United States of America, could so many crimes of an elected president and his cadre remain unexplained, unchallenged, and unpunished? When? Probably never.
We’re not talking mistakes, here. We’re not talking poor judgment or failed policies. We’re not talking politics as usual, - with its underhanded array of pork and perks. But we are talking about very serious violations of the public trust, and very possibly the law, perpetrated by the elected leader of this nation and his handlers.
Even more amazingly, we are talking about the shameful reality that not a single one of these offenses has been investigated by a truly independent, non-political, neutral commission, armed with subpoena powers and adequate funding, and answerable ONLY to the people of the United States of America. Not a single one.
In every one of the scandals in question, calls for a non-partisan, independent commission were thwarted by the very people accused of misdeeds and crimes. Something is really wrong when an American president who is accused of misconduct can determine who will delve into the facts behind his own actions? Something also is really wrong when incriminating evidence can be redacted and withheld from the public by the very people incriminated by that evidence.
Something is even more seriously wrong when cover up after cover up goes unreported and unchallenged by the same corporate media that spent eight years in relentless pursuit of scandals related to Whitewater, Travelgate, Filegate, Paula Jones and that awful threat to national security, Monica Lewinsky.
Of course, the targets of the media, and ultimately a Special Prosecutor, were Bill and Hillary Clinton, not George W. Bush, and accountability was not yet a dirty word. And of course, in that far more innocent time, challenging the president was not considered to be an act of treason. Tragically, today, it is.
For the SCANDALS and the STING they pulled off so well:
http://tvnewslies.org/html/why_is_george...
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5 May 2004
1 year 36 weeks
Hi S'MOM,
I make my home in Colorado Springs. In case you haven't heard, this city is staunchly Republican, conservative, and considers itself a "Christian right-wing haven". The leaders of the religious right here have carefully crafted a mentality of "us against the world". It is heard each week from the pulpits, especially that of Ted Haggard and from the exquisitely gilded sound booth of Jim Dobson (of Focus on the Family). By and large they have given George W. Bush their own special dispensation and (though they may occasionally disagree for the cameras) in their eyes, George W. can do no wrong. Strangely, I fall within these demographics, but my eyes are open to injustice, corruption, powers, and principalities. The local newsrag, called the Gazette is deeply entrenched in the pockets of conservative powerbrokers. It would be laughable if their editorial staff took up a collection to grow themselves a spine. As it is, no idea, thought, plan, or movement which is contrary to Republican politics is permitted to appear on their pages. Protestors in this town are routinely thrown in jail just for the simple act of trying to exercise their right to assemble. Cindy Sheehan would certainly be arrested for illegal assembly if she came here.
George W Bush would have to be literally caught flagrante delicto with someone like Eva Longoria on the front steps of City Hall at high noon by a group of camera afficionados from CNN, the BBC, and Le Monde before he would lose the blessing of the extreme right-wing Christian community here. And even then some would try to rationalise his behaviour as a little bit of temporary insanity. To demonstrate how fervent the right wing is in this town, imagine Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Medved, and Pat Robertson as the people most idolized by a majority of the members of this community. To the group-think Christians in this town, George W is just a simple man from Texas who is seriously misunderstood and besieged by the devil-worshipping media, Democrats, and Hollywood liberal queers. This city is also very heavily "military oriented" with NORAD, Fort Carson, Peterson Air Force Base, and Schreiver Air Force Base here. Obviously the military owes fealty to the Republican war machine complex. Unfortunately, I am not exaggerating.
You may pick up on the general "disatified-with Bush" theme of this reply. You'd be right. But I and many people here know the difference between right and wrong; justice and injustice; well-intentioned people and politicians who would sell their grandparents' headstones if it would put a little more spending change in their pockets. Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the world forces of darkness. Beware, there is a dark force in this town masquerading as a force of goodness and light.
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
For many years I worked with and for the Democratic Party. I was an emplacement in the media and a strong liberal for so many causes. I consulted for the Democratic Party in terms of strategy and wrote a column where I could spin everything toward the cause using Informal Fallacies to the endth degree. I would write with non sequiturs and position Republicans in the worst light I possibly could. Then I served on a committee for the Southern Governor's Conference where I came in contact with the files on many important Liberals. I began to seach around and soon I realized that some of what I believed in was all a lie. I saw the sources in the background who were practitioners and relatives of the strangest persuasion. When I saw Bill Clinton's file, I knew I wanted out of the mindset that had guided me for some 20 years. We had been successful in positioning some 85% of the national and state media as liberal and many were relatives of the party point-men and women. When I began my career as a conservative journalist some 12 years ago, I was shuned by those same people whom I had hired and taught.
I had grown up with George Bush in West Texas, knew who he associated with and darn it...He was just a good person. His family tried to do good things. My father was a Republican Judge and I began to realize that my own selfishness and fond love for those who loved the Pop-culture were my big problem. I was living a life that was a big lie. I surrounded myself with like-minded people who were in the Party...many had supported abortions or had such. Many used drugs and many were involved in strange activities. I had been taught and cajoled into thinking it was just ok.
My father was a great man of truth and character. He was not unlike Bush 41. I went back to my father and learned of his patience with me and his support of my crazy ways. He knew I would wake up someday. He was right. I started to research the thousands of books that our family had in the library. Many of my relatives were involved in political affairs and they clued me in. I realized how I had utilized my talents for propaganda to support the lies of the Liberal establishment. Now I see nothing has changed. But, now I know what is going on with the total picture. I wish it would all just stop...but no...I see the DailyGrail has gotten worse since I left and is getting more so. It is a pity that Greg does not disallow this kind of positioning and put down a stricture that indicates all politics stops at the water's edge. I once loved the alternative messages found here...now I see many are hell-bent on destroying my nation any way they can. I have confidence in George Bush and it is built on fact and not informal fallacy. I saw him grow up in the same atmosphere I grew up in. He is a pure, good man put in a nasty situation. But he has the West Texas mindset and character to be strong and constant in what he does for my nation. I am with him. It is not easy being the President of such a dynamic nation...and still hang on to your beliefs.
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
What is this mush? You have to be kidding!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Sorry, I like the man. You have a right to your views also.
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
Each to their own!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Fair is good.
5 May 2004
1 year 36 weeks
You guys win. After reading the last few replies, I have to confess to being a mental midget. Some of you folks go deeper than 98% of humanity. I'll have to be content to washing your cars and picking up your dry cleaning for you.
13 May 2004
52 weeks 16 hours
My house could do with a fresh coat of paint. When can I expect you to come round?
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
(This post was brought to you by "Realm of the Dead")
1 May 2004
17 weeks 4 days
Even Dr. Roberts, John M.Olin Fellow at the Institute for Political Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute, formerly associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing editor for National Review, and a former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury considers that the USofA has fallen to a Jacobin Coup!
Taken from the article:
"Is this the face that the American people want to present to the world? It is hard to imagine a greater risk to America than to put the entire world on notice that every country risks being nuked based on mere suspicion. By making nuclear war permissible, the Bush administration is crossing the line that divides civilized people from barbarians. The United States is starting to acquire the image of Nazi Germany. Knowledgeable people should have no trouble drawing up their own list of elements common to both the Bush and Hitler regimes: the use of extraordinary lies to justify military aggression; reliance on coercion and threats in place of diplomacy; total belief in the virtue and righteousness of one’s cause; the equating of factual objections or "reality-based" analysis to treason; the redirection of patriotism from country to leader; the belief that defeat resides in debate and a weakening of will; refuge in delusion and denial when promised results don’t materialize."
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
I know you are well educated Richard. Please look up Informal Fallacy and Non-sequitur...Our nation is strong because it has been put in that position due to worldly presure. We are not Nazi Germany...we are the same nation our Founding Fathers started with and we will continue in that vein. The lies you are referencing are not lies and were not lies to the United Nations or Bill Clinton...Your problem might be wrapped up in the Oil For Food scandal that pulls in Germany, Russia and France...What were they up to when Sadam used them...Weapons of Mass Destruction are certainly devices that they own and considering how they were easily forsaking old ties with America, I would say they most likely would have supplied Sadam with such weapons. The Mix is much more complex than the statement above. Just remember this...America is still America and we will always be there for your world...No matter how much you hate us.
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
Each to their own!
kennc
1 May 2004
17 weeks 4 days
The above article did indeed mention the danger of 'redirecting patriotism from country to leader'
You see Oscar, you are mixing hatred borne from the lies of the Bush administration with hatred for the USA and its citizens and that, I would call informational fallacy. You should also bear in mind that it is not in the interest of the world to see the USA lessened, although of course a lunatic fringe is hoping for this.
It is unfortunate that you would consider anything and everything that questions this administration as fallacy. The citizens of the world today are torn between admiration and hatred of what transpires from the current US attitude towards the world. This attitude of course is the result of this administration's own.
I remember very well how Rumsfeld wanted to hear nothing about anything else than Iraq after 9-11, even brushing aside the terrorist threat. How they automatically tried to link that event to Ussein by inferring that Iraq was somehow implicated with Alqaeda, which is something ridiculous to assume when you have even a small idea of world politics. (True enough, G. W. Bush thought that the Taleban were a rock band before he got elected :o he therefore could not have created them himself. That's another story though.)
The result was that when the US forces got into Bagdad, and this is something I saw with my own eyes, there were some peace activists that had gotten in and were trying to act as a 'shield' against the invadors. One lady yelled at a tank commander: 'Go home! You have no business here' and the commander to reply: 'Remember 9-11?' giving her the finger. The US citizens had become a raging mob whose anger was directed to fulfill an agenda that was by no means theirs.
Now, the Pentagon came up with a preemptive nuclear strike plan that states it should be used against Iran were a nuclear device to blow up in the States, regardless of the presence of proof to the implications of Iran! Now, are you going to tell me that this hard fact is fallacy as well?
If they needed a 'New Pearl Harbor' (9-11) to get to Iraq and now they would need a 'Nuclear Event' on American soil to get to Iran, would you not have cause for concern?
There was indeed a scandal in the Oil for Food program.
Almost all countries have been wrapped in a scandal or another and rare indeed are those whose hands are clean. For instance, does anyone care about What happened to Iraq's missing $1bn? What is the point is having counter arguments of the 'look over there, he's done something' so that no one looks this way? Why do we always see the straw in our neighbors' eyes and not the tree trunk in our own? Because of blind patriotism, because we don't belong to ourselves.
The EU did indeed give Saddam some means to develop such weapons, especially chemical as well as a nuclear reactor that got struck by the Israelite if you remember. The likes of Germany and France in particular were involved. The US also had its share of involvement with Saddam and their support in his war against Iran. They also were quite proficient in luring him into Kuwait, letting him believe that they would look the other way.
Another factor for European resistance in the conflict was of course a great economical incentive as Saddam had started accepting Euro for Oil. Interesting when you see that Iran has started doing the same and is now intending to create a new Oil Market on its soil. This has been reported to 2006.
This move would remove the last hurdle in switching from Greenback to Euro as a worldwide currency for Oil. You know very well what this would mean for US economy and the dollar. It would also mean that everyone could and probably would be quite interested in dumping their US currency reserves in favor of the Euro that would automatically get the boost.
As for the lies of this administration, it is quite pointless in denying them as they could not be any clearer. This is especially true in view of the fact that this same administration a year or two earlier, through the voice of Condi and others, was affirmative that Saddam had not and could not develop such weapons and that its capacity to develop nuclear weapons had been put to death since the first war and the sustaining of the embargo.
Furthermore, Osama Ben Laden was heavily financed by the US in support of both the Taliban and AlQuaeda that is reportedly no more than a web ring of drug trafficking and goons that was considered and most likely is still considered an intelligence asset by both the US and Great Britain. Otherwise, why would the DOD decide to send the very same people that had fought on his side against the Russian invasion supposedly to get him instead of having their own men going in for the kill when they knew exactly where he was? Is this not something worth questioning?
I can understand how hard it is for an American citizen to start considering that his president could be a traitor to his country. It is even harder if that citizen is of the same political allegiance than that of the president. Unfortunately, the list of intricacies and deception is huge and if you can take a neutral stance for a moment, you will see that much could be objectively refuted but not all. As they said, the biggest you make your lie, the more it will be believed. Somebody has understood this down the border.
This is even difficult for most North Americans (non US) to consider, as we always want to see the evil in the other’s camp. This is a dangerous proposal though. This principle of blind patriotism is even an invalidating factor to your own constitution. Why then retain the right to bear arms if it is not possible that the enemy be from within?
You are saying that things are like they were meant to be by the Founding Fathers. Then, consider that these men knew that danger could come from within. That is partly why your constitution was drafted the way it was. Several presidents tried to warn you of the danger of allowing the weapon and war industry of being mixed with government. Now, this is exactly what has happened. (See the Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Saying the Liberals this and the Republicans that is a moot point to me. This administration is no more republican than it is Liberal, really. The cabal that has taken over the government is that of a pressure group named ‘The Project for a New American Century’ that called for everything that is happening now to happen, all this based on a needed ‘new Pearl Harbor’. They wanted that war and they have highjacked the mighty US military power to
enrich themselves. Otherwise, how can you explain that they are now seeking to get a further 70bn$ tax cut for the rich?
As for Mr. Bush who you consider a good man, I am sorry but there is no such a thing as a good man who would mock a woman condemned to the death penalty and pleading for her life. This man reeks of contempt for life and let me tell you this Oscar, the devil will never put on an ugly face but will always have the best offer on the table for those in position to act. Technically, the very nature of man is totally corrupted with the concept of domination when there is a chance to exercise it and an implied threat from outside, real or not, will bring about a form of patriotism that is a sin against lucidity, especially when it becomes nationalism in support of a government that is now owned by the corporative.
To tell you frankly, if we are to refuse to see what the reality is behind what is happening now, there is no reason we would have been wiser than the German were at the onset of WWII.
It has been prophesized that those that were seeking to enslave humanity would be taken by the people to the highest tribunal. This has been a very long term plan and now it is coming to fruition. The next step is an event that will provide an excuse to put to death the constitution and pospone elections, perhaps indefinitely.
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Richard, I am sorry but you are wrong. Most of what you state comes from the various web sites that are entirely involved with informal fallacy. I thought I might pick each of your points clean but I don't see why...I should. We are indeed wiser than the Germans and If you think the people I represent are as dumb as you indicate...Heck!...you had best run for the hills. I have talked until I am blue in the face to folks such as you and it is of no use. I hope you have a nice day...while you participate with those who worry and wring their hands. Now, we try to make something out of a very complex situation. I hear nothing but complaining form such as yourself and the uninformed who read only what they like. I have seen the strategy of Both sides and know which I believe.
Peace and Regards
1 May 2004
17 weeks 4 days
I did not call anyone 'dumb' Oscar. Being blinded is not being dumb. We have been trained in a particular mindset and we have a hard time to separate our reality from it. That is not being dumb, that is being duped.
'most of what I state comes from sites involved with informal fallacy'
Do you then consider that the Republican Party is fallacy free?
This Liberals vs. Republicans thing is very US centric.
When looking at politics globally, it seems important to me to remain above the kind of polarized impressions that we think when associating with one side or another.
A personal negative experience with a party does not make the other clean. Politics is fundamentally dirty as it is a tool of power and domination for the fulfillment of an agenda that the politician has been programmed to embrace.
Liberals and Republicans have both been a necessary evil to maintain a balance between the push 'forward' of Liberalism and the restrain of conservatism. This balance has made it possible to have controlled progress in your country. Since you have a bi-partisan system, even though there are many other parties but that are totally on the fringe, it was and remains necessary that neither one of those parties be in position to crush the other.
The Republican Party if left to its device unchecked would totally sclerose any social progress and would content itself in reaping benefits from existing structures (that is called sucking them dry). This would further impoverish the poor but would ultimately drag both the economy and the rich down.
The Democrats if left to their device unchecked would totally fragmentize the economic structure in time and bring about a sort of anarchic social liberalism that would be seated on false liberty concepts and in turn result in a total moral break down among a people not yet ready to create their own consciousness. The current removal of social values, which is indicative of the end of a civilization, is leaving individuals to their own device and impressions. Unless one has spirit, he will abuse in the name of instant self-gratification.
One pushing-pulling on the other creates a balanced system of reigned progress.
This being said, I do not believe that the people that are in power now are 'Conservatives' at all. The pedigree of the unelected people in office is totally acquired to a clique, that pressure group that is called 'The Project for a New American Century'.
This project has been lobbying for the projection of the mighty US power to insure its hegemony in the world. It has also stated that it would not allow any nation to rise to the challenge. This was signed and approved by many people that are today in seats of power of this administration.
The ties with the current administration and the war-oil-industry cartel are not only numerous but omnipresent. This is not a fallacy but is a fact that is easily verifiable.
Having these corporations in virtual control of the government cannot create a government by the people for the people but a government by the corporate for the corporate. This is not a question of Conservatives vs. Liberals anymore but a question of 'who benefits, the people or the corporation?’ And please, don't tell me that if the corporation benefits, the people will automatically benefit from the crumbs trickling down the tree, which is simply not true.
Unfortunately, for those who did get some benefits, most often in the hope of retaining, they will close the door to the weaker ones and forget that what they are benefiting from was created with the blood and sweat of the poor and slaving manpower of yesteryear that allowed those corporation to become what they are. Much of this was built on virtual or very real slavery. After all, there are legions in the US today that have lives comparable to that of third world countries.
There was a time when there was no such thing as automated machinery and everything had to be done by slaving at it. The rich tend to forget this, as they believe that it is a righteously god-given advantage. They are Mammon adulators.
It is not a matter of Liberals vs. Conservatives.
The occult forces that seek to enslave humanity into its condition and slow its access to evolution as much as they can know what levers to use. These levers are of course to be found where there is an absolute might, economical or military, preferably both that can be used to curb the will of both nations and people. Add to this manipulation of the media and you have a neo-fascist state bent on forcing 'its' values down the throat of the rest of the world.
This could all work if it were not for the spirit of man. Yet, all this must happen because of the spirit of man. This is the work of that spirit of men that don’t even yet know that their mind does not belong to them but to their personal creator.
It will become imperious that we learn to detach ourselves from any ties that force us down the road of global agendas. What I mean by global agendas are the psychic pressures that are instilled in our minds to take sides and reinforce structures that are fundamentally anti-human but that bear promises of advantages rather than guarantees of justice.
This will be the measure of the new initiates of the new evolution. Others will continue riding down the slide of involution seeking to preserve their perceived advantages that will blind their sights until the end of this civilization. They are the reason why it was possible to prophecize.
As Atlantis has fallen, so will this civilization fall. It must for the simple reason that the individuals do not have the will to let go of their impressions and to divorce from their psychology. They believe that their psychology belong to them when in reality it belongs to their race, their culture, their experimental conditioning. Atlantis fell because the initiates of the time were led to blow that stone via their psychic ties with Luciferian forces. Look for the new Luciferian initiates in places of power as this is not the epoch of magic anymore, the magic is in the lie of human psychology.
You have often talked about the illusion of space-time. I surmise that this illusion extends in our impression of ourselves, all the way down to how our values are forged and adopted.
What we need is not to be right but to see clearly. Then, because this requires the extinction of emotional and judgmental values, we can be freed from external manipulation. This of course means that we can never again be a Liberal or a Conservative or anything else than an eye without a veil. Do I see more clearly than you? I am not the one to say. I am merely stating a principle.
In fallacy there is a concept of interpretation. The interpretation can make things fallacious to some and convincing to others. If we could consider the nebulous envelope that comes with distorded information we could use the small bit that is hidden under.
The problem is less in the message than in the interpretation. Were we not subjected to interpretative inducing emotionally charged values, we would not be subjected to manipulative forms and would be in position to strip the disinformative emotional charge from the message and simply retain the informative part.
There is nearly always an informative part; otherwise no one would be impressed. It is the additional steering charge of the messenger that creates the interpretation as being true or false whereas there is no such thing as ‘truth’, which is always a value relative to the conditioning of the interpreter.
The problem with the information that we are getting is that it is always tainted with the values of the messenger. One must be apt at stripping the values and retain the data. This leaves much out of the picture but clear and unaltered data can give quite a broad picture to those that can refrain from further distorting it with their personal values and conditioning.
All that is required is to not be involved psychologically in the process. Then, we can all talk about politics and see through politicians without getting at each other's throat. In such a process, we can invest our light into a pool of consciousness that does not belong to the group or to anyone but that creates an oasis in a sea of darkness.
Just my 2 cents
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
If you would take the time to read my material, you would discern that you are speaking to one who has just about experienced all facets of existing here in Time/Space. I know, we all speed read here. Yet, I have seen all facets of human development and dare say that few have seen what I have seen. Take care for whom you preach. I am here to tell you after being the son of a Republican Judge and worked in the Democratic Party for over 20 years, I think I have learned enough to say what I say. I have taught Informal fallacy and the utilization of non-sequiturs for over 22 years. I have had a business that interfaces with very high-level personnel and advised them on the strategy to cope with the competition. I think I know what is going on...but thank you for your input.
Peace and Regards
1 May 2004
17 weeks 4 days
I will close my comments on this with these few details I know may sound insignificant or baseless to some, especially for the speed-readers, which I am not. For the others, my apologies in advance as I know the form that will follow may not be appreciated by all.
Experience within matter is terminal and by no mean can or ever will supersede the infinite outlook of the unknown source of an individual. This means that experimentation has an end and must mutate into another range of vibration. The purpose of experience within matter was not the 'understanding' of universal laws and therefore never sustained a light capable of seeing through the veil of egoic self-serving illusions. The purpose was to build subtle bodies that would eventually serve the evolution of spirit that has yet to manifest itself to its creature. There is nothing to understand as understanding is already an appendage of lower mental laws.
Anyone can see but it will mean nothing. Seeing is granted to anyone and is part of this experience and therefore anyone will see what he is being shown either through experience or through direct interference by so called stupid ‘guides of light’.
Seeing ‘though’ is something else as it requires the entity to have some ground outside of the experience. Seeing through requires having already forfeited our allegiances to this world and its prince who is the law of this world. You cannot both serve God and Mammon.
The powers that be can use any form and associate them to emotionally charged values to manipulate our perception of reality. So long as we can be manipulated by politicians, how could we expect to thwart the occult lies that manipulate our minds? If we can’t deal and see through our basic material condition and its animalistic psychology, how can we expect to see through the work of forces invisible?
Discussing is not preaching and I am not a preacher. This is why I would not say something like 'read and learn'. I put forward what comes and I do not seek to impose either. This is not a church and I do not care for churches. I do have something against domination though and I seek to always look under the cover, not only the too obvious lies but that of more subtle energies that will have us believe that we have seen anything at all and create confusion in the mind. This is the cover of our own self-delusion that replace the real security of our identity with the false security of belonging to the group to which we have pledged allegiance against the promise of gain and domination of other groups.
We are leaving the time of the gurus and preachers. No man is a teacher to men. All that a man can do is talk to sharpen the blade of his light against the fog, not just use the light of astral humanity to further subjugate individuals or groups into further submission to some truth, be it psychological or spiritual.
We either belong to the source, to the inner spirit, or we belong to humanity, to the soul. We either are spirit light or we are astral light, feeding on the past and augmenting the empire of domination by our own lack of reality, acting as willing or unaware agents of powers that seek to prevent man from escaping their grasp and coming of age.
Every man is marked for a destiny that escapes his impressions of being and no man can escape that destiny. This is why we do not think what we want but what we can. This is why the law is to not believe, especially what we think we know as definitive.
No one either alone or as a group will be allowed to dominate in a not so far future. In the mean time, Arimanian forces are let loose, affecting both human psychism and even the planet itself. All energies and entities that will be rooted in the need to dominate will be barred from this place and from the future evolution of humanity, until the next test for which they will only be slaving in a role that will serve the further strengthening of the will of the spirit over any force that would subvert light and replace it with that of the prince of this world.
You often asked people to amplify; I hoped you would appreciate me doing so.
You are welcome too.
24 April 2005
2 years 50 weeks
They should re-write the Bible and include you in there somewhere Oscar...
13 May 2004
52 weeks 16 hours
Richard - that was an exceptionally well written post. I congratulate you on the balance and eloquence of its tone, together with it's well-informed content.
Hat's off to you mate.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
(This post was brought to you by "Realm of the Dead")
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Would that I could write as well myself.
24 June 2004
5 years 49 weeks
shadows
4 June 2005
4 years 11 weeks
Hi,
For a moment I thought this was satire.
It is always astonishing (and not a little depressing) to see persons so full of contradictions and fears that ensure the rejection of facts and data in favour of beliefs and carefully constructed denials of reality. Perhaps this is why the World is in the mess it is in today.
I'm British, but my closest friends happen to be American. However, taking even a cursory look at its history you might discover that the U.S. as a whole has never been a democracy in the sense that we understand it. It represents some of the most mind controlled people on earth. And this doesn't need to come from some covert government program. It is imbedded in the very fabric of U.S. society itself from Disney to MacDonalds, from Hollywood to the Bush family. It all seems to be about the denial of causes and effects. And these effects have most certainly been felt across the globe in a variety of toxic ways.
But I don't expect you to even consider that a possibility.
Forgive me Oscar, but you are a prime symbol of why America is in terminal decline due to this same reflex action of denial of the facts, and there are facts a plenty should you do your research.
But you choose to see what you wish to see under the veneer of pretending to know what you are talking about. That's ok. But please, don't make self-righteous pronouncements and then ignore the facts given to you because they are too painful to contemplate.
Finally, take a visit to Iraq and go and meet the thousands upon thousands of iraqi children who have died for George Bush's brand of oil-laden democracy. It's amazing what a taste of objective reality can do for carefully tended bubble of subjectivity.
Stan
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Sorry, I am living better and so are the folks around me...new cars, great homes, lots of money, love for one another, taking care of terrorists, getting rid of a dictator, trying to face up to nations who desire to destroy us, taking storms in stride, taking care of the folks in my area, we are doing fine...and there is no decline. My daughter's church is growing and all I see is good. I am sorry you see such decline.
By the by, I do research for a living. Psycho-demographics is one of the services my firm offers its clients. Psycho-graphics indicates that your nation is doing well...as is mine. Of course to measure a nation as small as England with Texas is about right. Now if you can be a little more English as were parts of my family and they were great gentilemen...Lee, I will be the same with you.
Peace and Regards
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
Obviously, you are one of the haves and not one of the have nots!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
I have lost many dollars in my life. I have made a little. I work my mind constantly and try to stay on top. I do not take anything for granted and strive to make new contacts daily. I have many friends who are glad to help as I was glad to help them in the past. We have a good network and we strive to be outer-directed. We are not selfish as is the lot of most Texans. We love humanity and lothe those who see ill in everything.
Peace and Regards
13 May 2004
52 weeks 16 hours
Your company? Research for a living? Oscar, you've been telling us all for years that you were a teacher, with classes and pupils and all?
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
One can do many things in this day of computers. I am retired now and have gone full time back to my old profession. Advertising, marketing, communication consulting with my old partners. So?
1 May 2004
1 week 6 days
And Rumfeld had nice pictures of him and Saddam taken when he sold them to him. What a suprise. He'd destroyed the WMD's just like he'd said. And Rummy was to stupid to plant some for anouther photo op. I don't hate my country , just the a$%holes in charge.
http://www.warresisters.org/wtr_menu.htm
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
My picture was taken with some very famous Dems...shaking hands. But I am no longer involved with them due to them going off the reservation. Things change. What you are doing is utilizing informal fallacy to sell a point taken out of context...also a non-sequitur.
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Richard
You hit the nail on the head! I totally agree!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
I want your knowledge base. Where intellectually do you come from? Many here speak with a known background and I wish you would let me know yours. Apparently you are very wise and I would just like to know whereof you speak?
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
I give very simple answers! I'm an introvert! Introverts like their privacy! But, it was nice of you to ask.
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
You need to get out more.
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
I wasn't asking for an opinion about how I should live my life! It's my life! If and when I want an opinion, I'll ask for it! I'm an introvert that likes his privacy! My personal life in none of your concern! Do you understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Indeed so. I will take care not to post to the "K" in regards to your known position.
Peace and Regards
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Oscar
I am happy to discuss my own position with you or anyone else; but, I don't discuss my own life! Introverts protect their personal privacy; because, they are private people! It is the way that they are! So, I discuss my own position, not my own life! Now, do you understand? Do you have any questions?
kennc
13 May 2004
52 weeks 16 hours
Don't even bother wasting your electrons, kennc.
It's really not worth the expense of energy.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Xibalba
Thank-you! I was about to blow a fuse!
kennc
1 May 2004
4 days 23 hours
Hi Oscar,
>>Then I served on a committee for the Southern Governor's Conference where I came in contact with the files on many important Liberals.
Have you read the same files on many important conservatives? If so, what was the difference in the files?
>> I saw the sources in the background who were practitioners and relatives of the strangest persuasion.
What is 'the strangest persuasion'? I did an internet search, but all I found were references from fiction.
Kat
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
For 20 years I was in the service of your grand liberalism. I saw both sides. We all need to calm down and realize that we are all in this...Liberals and Conservatives...If I can change you can.
1 May 2004
4 days 23 hours
Hi Oscar,
Why didn't you answer either of my questions?
Kat
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
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24 April 2005
2 years 50 weeks
....so your brown-nosing will go unheard. I bet you changed beliefs when you got in a higher income tax bracket, huh?
13 May 2004
52 weeks 16 hours
Jeez, you lot are really being taken in again by Oscar.
Here come his delusions of grandeur again. Claiming that he grew up in the shadows and intrigue of the corridors of power - claiming to have been a journalist (when he can't even get the term "nth degree" right), alleging that he saw "the file" on Bill Clinton.
You lot can argue about what he believes or not, but he's not taking me in with his ego-trip hogwash rubbish.
And for the record, Oscar - it isn't us who's trying to "destroy your great country". Wake up and smell the coffee! Your "great" country is rotting away from within - being destroyed by the very people who have been 'elected' as its protectors.
Get real - the world didn't start hating America en masse, for no reason, as if by some hysterical mass delusion. It is because of the lies told to the American people and the rest of the world by the current administration. Because of the double-speak that seems to enrapture the mind-numbed, obese citizens of that once proud nation. Because of the overtly corrupt individuals pulling the strings of government, and claiming that it's done in the name of "peace and security". Because of the brazenly hostile foreign policies of that corrupt government.
I don't think that TDG has become any more political since you "left". I just think that the good minds that frequent this board have finally gotten tired of giving the US the benefit of the doubt again, and again, and again.
And finally the world is beginning to wake up to this. If something smells rotten, it's usually because something is rotten.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
(This post was brought to that poor deluded soul by "Realm of the Dead")
24 June 2004
5 years 49 weeks
I am so proud of you all the way you are standing up for what is right.
All the years we have watched the US interfere in other countries' politics;seen the murder of their citizens by US armies;seen the destruction of their economies because the US considered them to be Communist;destroyed the cradle of civilization in Iraq for no reason other than wanting their oil.
I could go on but it is too depressing.
Oscar has his own agenda, like all those who would wage war because they do not agree with others' policies.
Richard is spot on when he talks about the fury of the US soldiers when they entered Iraq,blaming them for 911.
How DARE anyone do anything to the great US!
But Iraq didn't do it.
Doesn't matter, they're all towel-heads.Shoot 'em up anyway, God will sort out his own.
You are so right Xib, the US is its own worst enemy.It doesn't need anyone else, it is doing an excellent job of running its country down the toilet.
My sympathies are with the wonderful people in the US who do not deserve what is happening to them.
And what is going to happen in the future.
shadows.
I don't include Oscar in the last paragraph.When you make your bed, you lie on it.
24 April 2005
2 years 50 weeks
Ok, Ok, lemme guess...you hold shares in Haliburton?
20 July 2005
3 years 19 weeks
Maybe all interesting thinking americans should be relocated in other countries before the final destruction arrives... I'm willing to take bands like Tool for example, to live and direct their activities in Chile.
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
Nice place to visit.
1 May 2004
7 years 28 weeks
It is perhaps one of the best organized companies in the world. It is how I wish I could run my organization. I wish I still had a part of it, but no. I do respect what they do since no other company could do as well. When we start drilling in Anwar, you might want to get shares.
1 May 2004
4 days 23 hours
Halliburton serves contaminated food and water to troops in Iraq
The article begins by saying, "Outrage overflowed on Capitol Hill this summer when members of Congress learned that Halliburton's dining halls in Iraq had repeatedly served spoiled food to unsuspecting troops."
Now it's been learned that for the past year Halliburton has also knowingly provided the troops throughout Iraq's military camps with water that has twice the level of contamination of untreated water from the Euphrates River.
This is confirmed by Halliburton's own people and internal memos.
Is this what "no other company could do as well"?
Kat
2 March 2005
6 years 32 weeks
Kat
No company can cheat the public like Halliburton can! They have a track record. This is how Halliburton makes big profits. It should be noted that Halliburton is not the only company that does business in this manner; but, Halliburton is the best at cheating people. They are charging for treated water and imported bottled water. They are serving strained river water. They are charging for top quality food. They are serving garbage. And, sometimes, from what I hear, they do the same thing to some of their own employees. Halliburton is disguisting and so is Dick Chaney. President Bush defies discription! A good company should be put in charge of feeding U.S. Troop! But, if you think that it will happen, you are dreaming! Leader Ship? What leadership? As a descent Capitalist, I say, "Down with Halliburton and a few other corrupt companies too!"
For what it's worth, I'm as disgusted as you are! But, what good does that do?
kennc