Hawass - ancient Egyptian civilization as black has no element of truth to it
Posted by ciamarra at 22:02, 30 Dec 2007Hawass - ancient Egyptian civilization as black has no element of truth to it
now - i know over the years some of the egyptian art has darken abit over time,
but in recent year some of the black activists seem to be pushing things as a great lie about egypt. seems clear they trying to fuel hatred - possibly for finanical gain,
to get popularity, whatever the reason its seems to add the fuel to this black-white thing that exists in the states.
but its outrageous they are trying to steal someones elses culture and denying what experts and the dna claims.
to what i always read - the ancient egyptians seem to have a more european look than africian. but the blacks feel due to a few works of art that have blacken or some stone used was black. i couldnt believe one you tube video i saw from one guy - anyhow dna talks and so does dr Hawass.
anyhow i didnt think arabs where either- because i read they violated the pyramids after they raided roman egypt
"Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa," he said, quoted by the official MENA news agency.
heres the thread in hall of matt and experts there agree with hawass and confirm science and history agrees with hawass
heres link- i encourage readers to read
all the posts in thread
http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?6,467642
heres link showing egypt - mural of races
and some there mention how some black activists altered pics
i encourage readers to read
all the posts in thread
http://www.hallofmaat.com/read.php?6,468171
i just want to bring awareness to some blacks that live in the
states - that some black activists are doing this to stir emotion so they gain in popularity, and make finanical gains.
feel free to open a new thread at hall of matt if you wish to discuss it more
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30 September 2006
6 weeks 3 days
A lot depends on who you talk to. Archaeology, like any science, consists largely of speculations, assertions, expectations and suppositions loosely tied into hypotheses that only sometimes see any fleeting illuminations from experiment and experience.
19 April 2007
2 days 15 hours
i sure dr hawass and the experts are well aware of
kush known as nubia.
and indeed they mined down and had camps down there.
but the experts and dr hawass know full well that the
egyptians felt they were a different race from them.
if you would of read my links above from the
hall of matt - mural of races - the
thread disscuss that fact and how the egyptians view themselves as a different race from the blacks of nubia.
needless to say experts and dr hawass knowns the truth and what the evidence saids.
but what i find disturbing - is this hatred in some of these activists trying to fuel anger - like trying to create a angry mob - and the experts in field know its all ridiculous.
now i not from the states - but what i have seen and hear with this white-black tensions there - thats the last thing you need, is these guys making false claims to try and raise a mob of support on a falsehood.
i guess thats one good thing - canada didnt have the same type of english groups that fled english and obtain slaves from the black slave traders that were black and selling blacks.
basically it was french, then england went to war with them.
i found it interesting in school thats one of reasons the south losted the civil war, it was do to europe didnt want to get involve helping country involve in the slave trade.
needless to say - thruout time, there have been slaves.
coming from samnite descent my anchestors wwere salves and there wealth was taken. sabine women were also raped in rome to create romes new stream of people - very similar to africo-americans mixing of white and black by force.
but anyhow thru-out time there have been slaves,
white enslave blacks,
black enslave whites,
white enslave reds,
etc.
i just wanted to bring some awareness because this video i saw really was disturbing in that it was fueling this hatred proganda - which i find very disturbing.
22 November 2004
6 days 11 hours
Actually, the traditional form of slavery was not race-oriented. When there was some kind of war, the losers were often slaves, regardless of race, religion of anything else. It was equal opportunity slavery. And this was in pretty much all cultures.
Greeks, Romans, Arabs, India, Persia, Native Americans - the all practiced slavery. Later, the Dutch, English, French, you name it.
Sure the Dutch and English had laws prohibiting slavery within their own country. But they made tons of money off slavery in their colonies. So did the French, the Spanish, the Portuguese.
There are slaves today in Arabia, in India, in Africa. And I don't mean economic dependents. I mean people are legally owned by other people, and sometimes physically in chains.
You can add to the list, I am sure there is more.
Serfdom, a form of slavery, was never formally abolished in most of Europe. What happened was just that the serfs made enough money to buy themselves out.
But really, the problem is still with us.
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If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.
(Bill Clinton, and perhaps others)
19 April 2007
2 days 15 hours
and even africa - profited,
black were selling blacks,
anyhow slavery has always been a problem.
and my blood boils when the innocent is hurt by these
people who feel they could do whatever they want.
sometimes i wonder if we are all that free here even in
canada.
i mean we are force to breathe the pollute air coming from these huge polluters of the world and we all know its cutting our life spans, making us ill, costing us a bundle in health cares.
but certain countries dont care would they hurt - knowing full well of the damaging effects that its costing people.
are we free when we are force to pay so much in taxes, and so much corruption exists and money is spend foolishy and so many kick-backs. i used to work so hard, and my taxes dollars go to indiviuals living off the governemnet because they just dont want to make - thus making me a slave of a sort - me having to work for them.
we pay so much in taxes, interest,
our health care system is a joke and so many drs and nurses have flocked to states after we paid a cost in training and educating them. getting a operation at nite or at weekends is a diffcult thing at time.
but lets face it too - countries like india, china, and africa have been soaring in populations and they knew in 70's they were causeing a problem around the globe.
lets face it pollution cuts a human life span, and these huge growths in population increase pollution as demands rise, but costs rises as demand rises making tougher on the poor and leads to rough times, certain countries should be sanction and told to get there numbers back down to 1980 figures by having at most 1 child per household until figures drop
- it not fair to rest of world that they cut life spans of others , polluters also should paid, the west has aided to these countries with food and money but its should take a different approach since its clear they are killing us slowing.
but canada has let so many of them in there country - but its become a great burden to canadas health care system
1 May 2004
22 hours 54 min
Would answer all these questions.
19 April 2007
2 days 15 hours
dr hawass has run dna tests on eqypts pharohs.
and you hear the message he is saying.
but some of these black activists seem to have convince themselves that africa is entirely a black africa.
and i think the term "dark continent" was misleading to some of them. we all know dark continent refers to places that were unexplored for so long - thus dark and alot alot of black tribes there.
but that term didnt refer to places that were well known and discover as for thousands of years like around the mediterrian sea and nile area around egypt.
also some people mention lucy - which was not human or of homo species.
lucy was of the same speices those near Olduvai Gorge in Tanzania are more than 3.7 million years old.
devils' trails may be the earliest known footprints of a Homo species, which some consider to be the first true humans in Italy.
nearby in molise italy they found a camp over 740,000 years old with bones.
Turkey, the country that is located between the Middle East and Southeast Europe and has oldest ruins - city - even older than eqypt.
Gobekli Tepe in Turkey is the oldest temple in the world with area size of 3 tennis courts and is about 11,500 years old, Catal Huyuk also in turkey is oldest city in the world, 9000 years old and they had cosmic knowledge, good urban planning and lived in peace.
1 May 2004
13 weeks 5 days
....only what Dr H and his paid help say, then you are narrowing your beliefs to a very dubious source.
"Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told."
LRF.
19 April 2007
2 days 15 hours
i suggest you read that earlier link of hatt of matt and its posts = experts in field agree that these groups trying to claim a black egypt for there own is wrong.
plus dr hawass wouldnt risk his reputation to claim things as the dna on tut and state theres no truth to a black egypt.
needless to say dna talks and so does dr h and experts.
i suggest you reread that earlier link and all posts from that thread.