2012 - The Future of Mankind

To quote Michael Ellner: "Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality."

2012 - The Future of Mankind - Michael Tsarion

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earthling's picture
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Just wait, 2013 will be the year ...

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wherever you go, there you are

Rick MG's picture
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2012 is the Year of the Water Dragon in Chinese Astrology.

Enigmni Freak's picture
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I never saw so much BS. Why would anyone buy into all of his assumptions. He is the reason we invented Informal Fallacy and non-sequiturs. Things housed in truths are not necessarily true but often false for a coin or two.

aurora's picture
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Aye, and so the Gregorian year 2013 (4711) begins the cycle again at the year of the snake...

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Y2K — Yes, and then again the Maya might have just been high on the future since it was so far away then. I like to think they had a leg up on knowing advanced things, but then again they did not know enough to even save their on hides. So much for seeing into the future or the past. They could not take care of the present.

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...Knowing the Earth will blow up tomorrow will not help you survive the ordeal.

Seeing into the future or the past is no help. It is what is done now and the quality of the consciousness that manifests through what is done that matters. The forces that be don't provide any information that could give a useful edge to an individual, other than within the scope of a particular program. Man must give himself his edge, and being cut off from his perfection he therefore must evolve or die.

As for the Maya, their time as a civilization was done. Civilizations on this planet only have the importance of the mission that is embedded within their collective fabric. Once that mission has been completed, it dies. In the past they were absorbed by the newer civilizations as the dead would have to reincarnate within those available, according to their relative personal evolution.

It is not that civilizations that must or should be saved but rather that individuals must move on.

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These mayian predictions try to justify religion. Face it, doom and gloom are shared by people who are ignorant, miserable, and are looking for the pie in the sky for the answers, or the snake oil sold by the charlan who is just passing through. The strangest, weirdest, and downright oddest link I saw on TDG demonstates it to a degree. Here it is again http://www.spaceagetarot.info . Let's be optomistic here. Life did not end in 1984. Whatever will happen, will happen. 2012 will pass and will be like any other year, no differant than any other year.

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The Mayan Civilisation is simply a snapshot through the kaleidoscope of history.

Please note the title reads : 2012 - The Future of Mankind - to my mind, this implies a post-2012 arena of experience.

Does civilisation create a people or vice versa?
Whichever the case - what an awesome responsibility for those within it...

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What was before may not reflect what is after.

Civilizations have been a dynamic conditioning environment in the past because the individual had no identity. So he was forced to adopt models that he sought to imitate to give himself an impression of purpose. The individual then becomes the reflection of the civilization to which he belongs. He seeks to change civilization, his environment to fit his personal expectations. Instead of working on himself, he works for civilization.

Once the individual realizes his reality, he does not seek a model, he is his own model. Then civilizations are based on the dynamic movement of individuals. The civilization then belongs to the individual. Civilization becomes a product of his activity and he is free from influences. He works for himself and civilization, as well as all who participate, benefit.

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It has never done that before...We are all going to die.