New Research on Why some use Informal Fallacy and Lies
Posted by Oscar at 14:15, 04 Oct 2005The narcissist as pathological liar.
It is now apparent that when one runs for office, we should have them tested for how many white cells they have in their brains as compared to grey matter, then we will know if they should be trusted in office. Apparently if one positions as a narcissist as most Liberals are, then they are hiding information that would tell us who they really are. Most people who lie are extremely selfish and lie to maintain their position in life. Others do not have a clue as to why someone would lie to them…they tell the truth all the time and are totally taken aback by the other’s false claims.
In school we can recall the students who lied all the time to make it through life. The dog always ate the homework. They invented very creative and colorful means to pass on a lie. When something happened that was wrong, they pointed to others and called them liars. They created problems with others and said things that were not true just to take the heat off of them. Many resorted to slang and cute verbiage like...blow it out your....whatever. They usually put others down with jokes to make it seem that they were intellectually superior, when in essence, they were sick with excessive white brain cells. Our future Liberals. One thing for sure, this new research will soon give us an edge on pathological liars. You will know them by their white brain cells.
This sounds like me when I was a democrat...thank God I started drinking my V-8. It makes more grey matter (that could be a lie).
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13 May 2004
1 year 6 days
So, George Bush and Dick Cheney (who I KNOW you love to bits) have never told a lie in their lives, eh?
Oscar, man, you totally crack me up.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Well, I know I have told a few lies and prayed to be forgiven, but yes, they probably have lied. But I always think of what they inherited from Clinton who also along with the UN thought that there were WMDs prior to Sept 11. So, one must look at the root of the lie before pointing fingers. Since I have been in Advertising and Marketing for most of my life...yes, I see lies quite frequently positioned as truths...or informal fallacy and non sequitur. Like, I know you are not my pal, but still you use that...one wonders. Do you pray?
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
That's none of your business whether anyone prays or what people do in their lives.
Now run along and find something useful to do.
13 May 2004
1 year 6 days
The only thing I ever pray for, Oscar, is that you get yourself some SERIOUSLY strong medication, and soon.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Bless you, for you know not what you do or say in my regard.
It is time for you to examine your own being. By the way, we come to life not needing medication...unless you are addicted to such. Are you? Old pal?
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
You sound like an old mother.
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
and the sooner you run along the better.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
My model for Motherhood is my Mom...she is wonderful. She goes to church always, works for hundreds of agencies that help old folks. She cares about many causes and gives her time and money constantly to others. She and my father have always been administrators of PTA and community funds. They worked tirelessly to help their friends. When my dad passed away, they could not get everyone in the large church to say goodbye. He was well loved by many West Texans. Would that I could be as them. One key is to love others.
Shadow, awaken. You need to be nicer.
Cheers
1 May 2004
18 hours 17 min
You are one serious piece of work. If I had any doubts about you I have none now. Wow you really want us to like you,but all your big talk about me be this and doing that and knowing this and growing up with these importent people.And your wrong if you don't believe me, or subsribe to my point of view.
I can't like you or read your not sense anymore. Whatever your selling I'm not buying. Oh and claiming to be a good christian. Many a wolf in sheeps clothing has played the same game. This time you lose Oscar because I know who you really are!!!
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
. I could care less if you like me. I come from another generation...I can take you or leave you. But we do try to help those who need help, and if they cannot see the secret, we just let them be. You can be... By the by, you could never know who I really am, very few do and none of them are here any more. They were great folks though. I really miss those great Americans.
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
Did she dress you in little girl's clothing Oscar? Hmmm... you show some serious symptoms girl....
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
No, I wore sailor suits because my dad was in the navy durring ww ll. Nothing wrong with girls...if one brings them up right...rather than left.
Cheers
30 April 2004
5 hours 6 min
Hi Oscar,
But I always think of what they inherited from Clinton who also along with the UN thought that there were WMDs prior to Sept 11.
It might be worthwhile reviewing the history of the whole debacle, just in case you've been glued to Fox news all these years.
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp....
Interesting how quickly Cheney and Powell's positions changed...
Peace and Respect,
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
I know where you come from Greg, I know your basic perspective and I do not think it is flawed, only different. As I have said a thousand times, I know because I have seen it all. I know how leveraging ideas and thought can create the environment where one can be manipulated. I do not think I have been manipulated due to the fact that I research psycho-demographics and paradigm strategy. Human Leveraging is indeed a craft...one that I have taught on the university level and have written over 600 articles on. I know you are growing, but to round out your career, perhaps you should also watch Fox. Hold your nose.
When the world presents events in pico seconds, a good leader needs to be able to change positions readily. It is the mark of good leadership.
Look, political persons are like clay...Where are the real hands that throw those pots? In the pants of 6 persons. And, they don't know it.
One name comes to mind...the other George...Soros...the money behind all efforts to destroy America from within. Yes, money does many things...but there are no ideas coming from the left...ideas and mentality only reinforces the Grey matter theory.
Peace and Regards
2 March 2005
6 years 33 weeks
Oscar
What is this Bullshit? Get serious!!!
kennc
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Who gives you the right to use such verbiage. Your flippancy is typical and I would ask you not to speak this way on line. You should get serious!!!
Just kidding, keep it up...sounds sooooooo goooood!
Now, who is a liar.
22 September 2005
6 years 31 weeks
"Number Form Follows Measurement Function"
What can one say about Kennc?
The task of offering irrefutable evidence to encourage a belief in conspiracy that can affect the thinking of the world’s Governments is seemingly not possible and there is usually no tangible evidence of such a conspiracy.
The Skeptics seem to me to come against some of famous conspiracy theories without much investigation themselves. My own thoughts are that important world events are being controlled in secret by an ultra-powerful group of evil spirit puppet masters who are as the ‘Invisible Hands’ within the mind of those human puppets they so select. And the Skeptics who do not believe in a real other life after death obviously reject the suggestion of any evil spiritual conspiracy, a conspiracy of spiritual deception, and so don’t believe in spiritual forces, either good or evil.
I say, an evil force is determined to kill thousands, tens of thousands, even millions of people. For the Adversary’s agenda is his great ‘Death Immigration Policy (DIP), into his own Kingdom. And so the world’s nations have made themselves enemies so there is a ‘legal’ reason to go to war and kill people. So peoples, races, nations, are set at each other throats and this is permitted by God, but only for a set time period, a period which is counting down.
The Adversary needs the spirit of the dead Godless humans as fuel for Hades.
And one day will mark millions with the number for spiritual death as the spiritual energy for Hell, at a lower level than Hades.
Sad
Mmm
Hades has the number 126 and Hell 611 and 126 x 611.0027 and cubed twice x 2 is Death at 1.90000e+44.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
I find you one step beyond me...I am not of numbers but symbols of expression. I read nature...the symbols that form a fuzzy logic. I am fuzzy and you are specific. I hear the truth in a blur of information and you see it sharp. You sound like a good person. You may pass.
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
Typical elitest behaviour from you Oscar, if you can't understand it and it looks important it must be good.
Why don't you find something to do...the devil finds work for idle hands.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Thank you for making my point/s. Your blatant behavior toward anyone outside of your own mindset is a huge question mark. I am no longer an elitest though when I thought with my once liberal brain I was. I have done much with my idle mind. Perhaps, more than you know. I am old now, but I do not stop working. Every day, I work all facets of my being...and my mind is indeed expansive. I am open and have many fine friends who respect my mentality, though you position me in your own image...which is somewhat shaded, I do manage to produce a few things here and there.
Cheers,
22 February 2005
5 years 26 weeks
hades is from Greek mythology meaning" abode of the dead". In Hebrew, this would be sheol, which is ,burial in the ground. The concept of " hell " being a burning, continuous fire and torment was derived from the Hebrew " gehenna " which was the valley of Hinnom.
Hell is an English translation of both gehenna and sheol.
The valley of Hinnom was where all the rubbish from Jerusalem was burned, resulting in perpetual fires. There was also a Canaanite Idol of their god Molech erected there and had human sacrifices.
Therefore, hades and the word hell, have no real bearing on anything.
DISCLAIMER: the opinions and veiws in this post are mine only and are not those of others or of TDG. Any similarities are by chance only.
24 January 2005
3 years 22 weeks
Oscar, do you really think all conservatives are honest and all liberals are liars? Or even that there is an overwhelming correlation?
And I might as well ask you, are you infected with the neo-consevative PNAC disease? Because these people seem to be the greatest pack of penultimate liars Washington has ever yet been cursed with.
tronicus
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
As I have said thousands of times, I was once a Liberal Democrat political emplacement in the media. My father was a conservative judge. I have seen the entire spectrum from my youth to the present. I have seen the inside and out. I have played all the games. What is it about Spectrum that you do not understand?
I began a study some 20 years ago, after serving on the Southern Governor's Conference Committee where I saw the files of many of the Governors of the whole nation. I was taken aback with what I saw. All the "clanks" that I had overlooked as an assistant publisher in my media days began to fill in. My father's good character and great love for humanity caused me to change my mentality. I re-examined my life and found I had been totally flippant and recalcitrant about my behavior. I changed. So can you...start making more grey matter.
By the by, if you could study informal fallacy and the non-sequitur, you will begin to see how pathological liars and narcissists tend toward the Liberal persuasion. Many Republicans do not even know how to lie as well as those folks I once worked for. The Dems started long ago to control who worked in the media...they control the propaganda machine of putting pop-culture to work for them. I know of this because I was involved in the psychological presentation of such in my youth. I worked in the music business, radio, newspapers, publishing and was a university administrator...I saw it from every perspective. I truly believe there is a disfunction in my old friends who cannot get away from how they present the news...it always has the old slant. Thank God I had my patient father to bring me back to reality.
Seems psychological research is beginning to prove there is something to my observations.
Peace and Regards
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
...and I've got a big arse of which I am extremely proud.
Everything you write is divisive.You simply do not have the ability to write anything that is cohesive.
You are intent on separating people, making out that some are better than others.....
men are better than women...
white people are better than black people....
heterosexuals are better than homosexuals....
and now it is physical components that some have that are better than others.
Do you realise what a jerk you are Oscar?
Have you any idea what people think of you?
Are you so totally under the spell of the most evil bunch of administrators your country or any other counry has ever seen?
Don't answer.
I couldn't stand it.
Maybe if you go and stand in the moonlight one night you will turn into something nice and pleasant like a werewolf and we will be able to cope with that.
shadows
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Here is a fine example of how to use white matter....attack with Argumentum ad misericordiam, position the opposition with Argumentum ad hominem and then finish up with tu quoque. What a fine lesson you have passed on to us Shady Lady. Do you work for Soros? If so, you need to begin with offering love rather than your apparent hate...and then come up with ideas that will help others rather than tear down persons you dislike. Learn to like others...it is good for you.
30 April 2004
5 hours 6 min
Oscar,
Please don't patronise people with your invented nicknames (eg "Shady Lady). Further, if you want to deconstruct people's posts with informal fallacies and the like (a MB trend which I find so tedious, it almost needs a name in the informal fallacy definition list itself), then I suggest to you that your Conservative vs Liberal posts are becoming an Argumentum ad nauseam.
Peace and Respect
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
You know, I have taken a lot of stuff from many here and have not come back near as nasty as I get. I think I need to see the same "mothering" from you in their direction also, or this site is speaking out of one side of its mouth. I came here with a point of view, that was put down at every turn from about six posters who utilize very nasty remarks. I suggest that you look at them also, or are they just family to you?
I have been fair and never responded using crass verbiage...I suppose you just laugh at that. I seek equal time.
In fact, I have never seen this level of behavior at a professional site. What is up with that? I have been positioned as a hater and a liar by two very specific persons, yet I do not hate and once in awhille not let a lie get in the way of a good story.
I am a good and Godly person not wishing to harm anyone, but once in a while, my old warrior awakens inside, being Cherokee, and wonders what is going on. So what is going on?
Peace and regards
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
There you have it, the answer.
Most sensible people have always known that when a person describes himself as good and godly it is time to run for your life.
Shades of Jimmy Bakker here.
Of course we're all family.
Gregory Einstein Shakespeare Taylor is my great great great grandnephew on my mother's brother's wife's father's side at one remove.
Xibalba is my sister.
I thought everyone knew.
Sorry.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
One can always count on you.
Cheers
13 May 2004
1 year 6 days
Oh dear. The world really is an unfair place, isn't it.
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Now I know you are a girl. I did not know that.
13 May 2004
1 year 6 days
Really? You sure? Does it make a difference?
yer ol' pal,
Xibalba
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1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
I now know whereof you come.
30 April 2004
5 hours 6 min
Hi Oscar,
I think I need to see the same "mothering" from you in their direction also, or this site is speaking out of one side of its mouth.
Perhaps you should pay more attention. eg.
http://www.dailygrail.com/node/1848#comm...
Beyond that, it is no business of yours about private emails I send to members regarding comment moderation - don't assume that what is seen here on TDG is the only method of moderation. I have censured others for the way they have spoken to you - now it is time for you to recognise that you incite some of these responses by obscure and repetitive posts.
One of the great rewards on this site for putting in hours of free work, is that you get abuse from everyone about being unfair. It warms my heart.
Peace and Respect
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
You do well Greg, I just get a little grumpy at times, but all and all, I just go with the flow. If I had a son like you, I would be very proud of you.
O.
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
This pretty much tells you what society thinks of your views and the policies of your neo-con asswipes in DC. That in itself should tell you something Oscar. Nobody's buying the BS anymore. Your mindthought has brought down a great country...a country hated by the common folk of even our allies. Yep, I'm common folk, run my own business that is getting raped to pay for your narcissist-lying administration's plush homes while I see common people struggle to make ends meet. Oscar, that Hell that you believe in? Tell the Bush administration I said FU when ya get there buddy boy...
30 April 2004
5 hours 6 min
Hi Dorenob,
Please don't post comments which stoop to simple abuse (eg. telling people they are going to hell). I think it's time everyone just stepped back and took a breather.
Peace and Respect
Greg
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You monkeys only think you're running things
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
..It's just blatently obvious that this Administration is tearing up my country, then along comes an Oscar promoting it all... just needed to vent. guess the best thing all of us can do is just not respond to anything this guy says, then maybe he'll just go away...
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
I wouldn't mind a logical argument with him but it seems to be impossible as Oscar only has one thing on his mind and that is promoting his point of view.
And his point of view is always divisive.
If you look at this blog of his you can see what I mean.Some science apparently finds evidence of differences in the brain in people of different personalities and Oscar extrapolates that to mean that all Liberals are liars and Conservatives don't even know how to lie.
He obviously does not watch Hannity and Colmes.
I know exactly how you feel because I won't let him get away with it if possible either.
shadows
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
I can always count on you to save the universe.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
I know the good and bad of all this and I agree with you on some parts of it. It is the larger picture I am concerned about. Hang in there. Things may turn for the better.
Cheers,
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
Hmmm.. All that worldly experience & 79 cents can get ya cup of coffee at 7-11 Oscar. ~Inkslinger
...The Sheep need a better Sheppard!
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
Someone spiked your V-8 Oscar! I bet you can hear the ocean in that head of yours. Narcissits truly believe their own BS. You certainly fit that MO Oscar. Call it stirring shit if you will, maybe the right-wing blog sites find you boring, unintelligent? You definetley rank an idiot's opinion here...isn't that embarrassing? You can't save BUSHS' reputation Oscar, he's screwing it up faster than any of you sheep can keep up. Go find another website to blog on...maybe the Boyscouts have one? They're still young & dumb Oscar...you can feel real special there! ~Inkslinger
24 April 2005
2 years 51 weeks
the sphincter muscle contracts, tightens...a warm gush of air poots forth...
24 June 2004
5 years 50 weeks
and they've been eating onions.
shadows
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
But I supporse this is typical???
1 May 2004
1 week 5 days
What a shame that you chose to politicise this blog entry. A very interesting article : unfortunately, the potential for discussion obliterated by the hostility the choice of presentation invoked here...
It just goes to show, perhaps, just how far the political 'vacuum' has extended.
Still, if correct it IS revealing and it would be wise to keep an eye open for further study on this subject.
1 May 2004
7 years 29 weeks
Thanks for your statement. I do respect your ideas.