News Briefs 23-04-2013

Dan Brown's Inferno arrives in three weeks. Get the lowdown on the likely mysteries and history that he'll discuss via Inside Dan Brown's Inferno.

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Up to the Twentieth Century, reality was everything humans could touch, smell, see, and hear. Since the initial publication of the chart of the electromagnetic spectrum, humans have learned that what they can touch, smell, see, and hear is less than one-millionth of reality.

Buckminster Fuller

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Greg H.'s picture
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Dawkins believes anyone holding idiotic beliefs should be banned from publishing or reporting...nice but who then becomes the arbiter of what are non-idiotic beliefs? And how often do previously accepted scientific facts get overturned in the light of new discoveries? A very dangerous and self-righteous narcissistic path Dawkins proposes...

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So basically, what Dawkins is saying is that the limited format of Twitter forced him to go on 'full vitriol' mode (instead of 'nuanced vitriol' mode)?

Yeah right...

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Greg this's why the Ancients were so big on knowing they self.

To me reading Richard Dawkins on this affair he seems as self deluding as any of us especially those silly credulous paradoxical fools Conan Doyle and Lord Dowding.

If Dawkins were as honest and objective an observer of himself as he'd have us believe he is of others he'd admit “Mehdi Hasan admits to believing Muhamed flew to heaven on a winged horse. And New Statesman sees fit to print him as a serious journalist” was indeed "a call for New Statesman to sack him" or at least publicly reprove shame or make life difficult for him in some way.

AFter that though he could've continued this's the problem inherent with such rapid communication technology that one's knee jerk reactions can get out there causing their virulent corroding effects before one's had a chance to make a more measured and fair evaluation such as his later implicit admission Mehdi Hasan's beliefs need no more affect the calibre of his work than Lord Dowding's belief in fairies affected his capacity to conduct highly effective hi-tech death dealing war.

He might even've added if it's possible those guys were wrong his own particlar faux pas's alerted him to the possibility he too might be wrong because afterall the likes of the Sufis clearly state Muhammed's journey on Alboraq was actually a human interpretation of an experience currently beyond most humans' capacity to either undergo or truly understand much like quantum physics dark whatever etc etc all have to resort to symbolic forms like E m and c to even begin to get a handle on their possible significance.

And finally he might've added if people can get along with each other and do their jobs well anyway what does it matter what anyone believes so long as they don't impose their beliefs on anyone else though admittedly allowing for that possibility might seriously impact on him doing the same thing.

Which brings me to the Sirius documentary which I have absolutely no interest in but even less now since it seems increasingly likely it's go'n'o turn out something along the lines of that mermaid thing.

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Clearly Dawkins' backpedaling was formulated to acknowledge how even the most 'peculiar' (read 'idiotic') beliefs don't seem to hinder the professional performance of the likes of Hasan, Doyle & Dowding.

But what Dawkins should REALLY be asking to himself & his Twitter minions, is if the professional performance of those gentlemen was actually determined, or even improved —in some tangential or indirect way— by their particular belief system.

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remember, Twitter users are either called Twits or Twats...your choice :3

See video

man, true telepathy is gonna be so fun

with people editing their thoughts...imagine the flame wars? 'how dare you think that? och, you did it again!!!' :3

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One of the hallmarks of fascism is emotional and intellectual immaturity. We are seeing a growing fascism in many spheres and that includes the sphere of intellectual inquiry. People like Dawkins are tyros, and they are becoming legion. There is this growing undercurrent of implication that people who think differently should not be allowed to participate period. Fascism. Censorship.