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News Briefs 10-06-2010

By red pill junkieon

World cup is about to kick-start, and everybody is ready for it here in Mexico; specially the government, which has prepared yet another raise in the price of gasoline —to be enacted the very next day— confidant that the people will be too exhilarated with the national team’s victory over S. Africa to notice or mind.
…But what if they loose?

Thanks to Greg, Rick, Kat & Aaron.

Quote of the Day:

“If, from a humanist perspective, the Amazon must be internationalized, we should also internationalize the world’s petroleum reserves. Oil is as important for the well being of humanity as the Amazon is for our future. The owners of the reserves, however, feel that they have the right to increase or decrease the amount of oil production, as well as increase or lower the price per barrel. The wealthy of the world feel they have the right to burn up this immense patrimony of humanity.

In much the same way, the wealthy countries’ financial capital should be internationalized. Since the Amazon Rain Forest is a reserve for all human beings, no owner or country must be allowed to burn it up. The burning of the Amazon is as serious a problem as the unemployment caused by the arbitrary decisions made by global speculators. We cannot permit the use of financial reserves to burn entire countries in the frenzy of speculation.
[…]
In their debates, the US presidential candidates have defended the idea of internationalizing the world’s forest reserves in exchange for debt relief. We should begin by using this debt to guarantee that each child in the world has the opportunity to go to school. We should internationalize the children, treating them, all of them, no matter their country of birth, as patrimony that deserves to be cared for by the entire world. Even more than the Amazon deserves to be cared for. When the world’s leaders begin to treat the poor children of the world as a patrimony of humanity, they will not let them work when they should be studying, die when they should be living.”

Extract from Cristovam Buarque’s speech, given at the NYU in 2000 [Read it here].

red pill junkie
Agnostic gnostic, walking conundrum & metaphysical oxymoron (with emphasis in the 'moron' part), the mysterious RPJ leaves a double life: By day he serves as Grand Master of the International Sacred Order of Lucha Libre, but at night he pursues his life-long study of everything considered mysterious and/or 'paranormal' --a term he personally detests... When he's not exploring the web looking for his daily fix of Forteana, he can be found blogging, doodling, fooling around and offering his services as news administrator and writer at The Daily Grail. He also regularly participates in other websites and podcasts like Radio Misterioso and Where Did the Road Go? He impatiently awaits for the return of the mothership in Mexico City. absurdbydesign.com
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13 Comments

  1. The Mexican kid who was killed at the border
    Isn’t it funny how a person’s family always tells the media how good a person they were? From the Fox article linked…Fox didn’t call him a criminal; he actually has a record and was on the local most wanted list:

    Huereka was charged with alien smuggling in 2009, according to sources who requested anonymity. Further details were not immediately available.

    “He is a known juvenile smuggler,” a source told Fox News. He was also on a “most wanted” list of juvenile smugglers compiled by U.S. authorities in the El Paso area, sources said.

    1. Anonimity
      So we obviously discard anything the family says, but we immediately buy everything an anonymous source says?

      Kind of funny, that Fox is pretty much the only news source going for that angle. If you’re right, I’m sure they will be willing to share the info given by this Anon to the Mexican embassy.

      And you’re also dismissing another tiny fact: The agent killed the boy on the Mexican side of the border; were the plays reversed, this would have triggered an immense outrage from the US Congress, because it’s an international incident in violation of the agreements between two sovereign nations.

      …Or so I thought!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMcITpLfV_A

      (Of course, this is referring to the case of the agents returning fire from THEIR side of the border, in order to defend themselves. It doesn’t say anything about illegally crossing the border on foot, in order to shoot someone at short distance).

      There’s an actual video of the officer shooting the boy, from Univisión. Ironically, I can’t see it myself, but I’m sure you can.

      PS: Oh, should we also talk about that other immigrant who was brutally beaten to death by Border Patrol officers not too long ago?

  2. On the mexican side of the river? You mean 30 or 40 feet away?
    The distorting of information and lack of accountability on this issue to try to justify anger on the part of the mexican nationals is appalling.

    “And you’re also dismissing another tiny fact: The agent killed the boy on the Mexican side of the border;”

    The mexican border is 20 or 30 feet away, close enough to wound or kill with a thrown rock. The statement quoted above is disingenuous at the very least. He wasn’t “miles away”, he was mere “feet away” from a professional committed to upholding the law (not lose his own life/health so that a lawbreaker could take it). And there is a reason that people have been stoned to death throughout human history: it is a painful way to DIE. Remember that childhood rhyme: “Sticks and STONES may break my bones..”

    Recently there was an attempt by a mexican drug cartel Los Zetas to blow up a Texas dam to exact revenge on a rival gang called the Gulf Cartel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100603/ts_ynews/ynews_ts2382).

    US citizens are getting fed up with the trash coming across the border. And all the attempts to defeat the rising indignation of normally gracious, law abiding, generous christian Americans with Political Correctness will fail. I have been on the receiving end of “hispanic” racist behavior, and although I remind myself constantly to consider each person on an individual basis, I am all out of “compassion” for the suffering plight of the “illegal alien” (criminal).

    No one wants to go to jail to rid the community of these parasites, but Americans have a long history of doing what’s necessary to keep our families and homes safe.

    1. Parasites

      The distorting of information and lack of accountability on this issue to try to justify anger on the part of the mexican nationals is appalling.

      I agree. I would think that an independent investigation should be conducted. Oh, wait! That’s only permitted with countries like N. Korea or Iran. I forgot that the US and Israel are exempted of this.

      The mexican border is 20 or 30 feet away, close enough to wound or kill with a thrown rock. The statement quoted above is disingenuous at the very least. He wasn’t “miles away”, he was mere “feet away” from a professional committed to upholding the law (not lose his own life/health so that a lawbreaker could take it). And there is a reason that people have been stoned to death throughout human history: it is a painful way to DIE. Remember that childhood rhyme: “Sticks and STONES may break my bones..”

      Nobody said the agent or the victim were miles away.

      Upholding the law, you say? The brutal use of deadly force is the right way to uphold the law, apparently. You throw a rock to a BP agent and he responds with live fire. What happens if he’s assaulted with a BB gun; is he allowed to use a grenade launcher then?

      Stoning might have been the preferred way to execute people in the distant past. But for that you need a)to be VERY close to the victim; and B)to have A WHOLE bunch of rocks, or a whole bunch of buddies throwing alongside you.

      Otherwise, you would think the body-count during public riots would be quite staggering —and, mind you: during those acts of rebellion, the police officers are trained NOT to respond with deadly force.

      Recently there was an attempt by a mexican drug cartel Los Zetas to blow up a Texas dam to exact revenge on a rival gang called the Gulf Cartel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20100603/t…).

      If you think I shy away from admitting there’s a lot of violence coming from the Mexican crime organizations, I’m afraid you haven’t had much time to read my comments or my blog.

      Then again, those crime organizations are so powerful, partly because they can go to any 7-11 in El Paso and buy all the weapons they want.

      US citizens are getting fed up with the trash coming across the border.

      Care to clarify what exactly you mean by “trash”? If you’re referring to the illegal drugs the cartels move across the border, then it would seem that the American demand for that “trash” is not ending any time soon.

      If for “trash” you mean the people who risk their lives crossing illegally the US border in order the find a sustenance they couldn’t find in their own land —because their own government is unable or unwilling to provide them with it— then I’m sorry to say you are assumptions are incorrect. Most of those people are not professional criminals; they don’t seek to do harm to American citizens; they simply seek to do the jobs none of you would care to perform anyway.

      Did they break the law by crossing the border? Yes.

      Do they deserve to be treated like dangerous criminals or terrorists by American authorities? NO

      No one wants to go to jail to rid the community of these parasites, but Americans have a long history of doing what’s necessary to keep our families and homes safe.

      I really have nothing to add here. That remark deserves to stands on its own.

  4. Parasites…
    “Upholding the law, you say? The brutal use of deadly force is the right way to uphold the law, apparently.”

    What do you call stoning a person? (Any other response, such as referring to getting shot as “brutal”, but not also including stoning another human being as brutal, shows your lack of integrity/honesty).

    “(1)Stoning might have been the preferred way to execute people in the distant past. (2)But for that you need a)to be VERY close to the victim; and B)(3)to have A WHOLE bunch of rocks, or a whole bunch of buddies throwing alongside you.”

    1 Men stoned to death for adultery, murder in Iran, Jan. 14, 2009 (http://current.com/news-and-politics/89714305_men-stoned-to-death-for-adultery-murder-in-iran.htm)
    2. If your close enough to throw as stone, you can stone a person. I am not in great shape but even I can throw a rock that can give you a concussion half a foot ball field’s distance (50 yards).
    3. One rock can kill, and it doesn’t have to be a million-to-one-shot. The fact that protestors commonly gather in large groups when violently demonstrating has nothing to do with how many stones it takes to kill a person. What a total lack of logic and common sense you demonstrate publicly with your comments! (Protestors at Geelani march throw stones, kill civilian, April 30, 2010, (http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_stone-pelting-kills-civilian-in-srinagar_1377239))

    No one wants to go to jail to rid the community of these parasites, but Americans have a long history of doing what’s necessary to keep our families and homes safe.

    “I really have nothing to add here. That remark deserves to stands on its own.”

    This statement by another commentor also stands on its own:

    “A 17-year-old Mexican boy, that smuggled illegal immigrants, was sentenced Thursday to 40 years in prison for the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent who was shot several times in the head during a robbery attempt. (4/29/2010) …next..…Authorities say Ortiz-Jimenez was part of a violent group of human smugglers that held at least 23 illegal immigrants hostage at gunpoint in May 2008. The hostages later told authorities they were beaten and a 16-year-old girl was sexually assaulted even after her family paid for her release. (9/22/2009)…next…..Francis Hernandez (25) was sentenced Monday to 60 years in prison for causing an accident that killed three people at an Aurora ice-cream shop in 2008. (5/10/2010) And the list goes on…there are THOUSANDS of these on the net. And YES, before you state it…I KNOW there are thousands of American citizens that kill also…we just don’t need ILLEGALS from another country killing innocent people too. BTW…did anyone hear ANY apologizing for ANY of these incidents?”

    1. Like a Rolling Stone…

      What do you call stoning a person? (Any other response, such as referring to getting shot as “brutal”, but not also including stoning another human being as brutal, shows your lack of integrity/honesty).

      Here’s your stoning (at last! god-damned regional restrictions):

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgCIl7c7XpM

      1 Men stoned to death for adultery, murder in Iran, Jan. 14, 2009

      There’s a *slight* difference between an execution by stoning —the way it mainly used to be thousands of years ago, but regrettably still continues in some places of the world— In those cases the victim is held against the wall, and can’t escape his executioners.

      If your close enough to throw as stone, you can stone a person. I am not in great shape but even I can throw a rock that can give you a concussion half a foot ball field’s distance (50 yards).

      Yeah, well, I’m not in great shape either —I have a busted knee and back problems— but if I see someone throwing rocks at me, I flee! I get the hell out of there, which is exactly what these BP officers should have done if they genuinely felt their lives were at risk —which they weren’t. But no… the BPs were packing heat, and when you’re packing heat and some teenage beaner is showing disrespect on you, you’re gonna teach them a lesson!

      Do I condone the pelting of rocks against the BPs. Of course not; What I strongly condemn is the excessive use of force which was implemented, not as a dissuasion, but as an execution.

      And YES, before you state it…I KNOW there are thousands of American citizens that kill also…we just don’t need ILLEGALS from another country killing innocent people too. BTW…did anyone hear ANY apologizing for ANY of these incidents?”

      From the Latin American Herald Tribune:

      GROWING DISCONTENT The boy’s death occurred a week after Mexican national Anastasio Hernandez Rojas died at a U.S. hospital after being beaten by U.S. Border Patrol agents.

      The 35-year-old Hernandez Rojas was beaten near the Tijuana-San Isidro border crossing moments before being deported to Mexico after living more than 20 years in nearby San Diego, California.

      Mexico’s independent National Human Rights Commission, or CNDH, condemned the incident and said Hernandez Rojas was beaten by at least 20 U.S. federal agents for apparently “resisting repatriation.”

      “They hit him repeatedly and gave him electric shocks even when he no longer put up any resistance,” the CNDH said.

      Illegal immigration is one of the most contentious bilateral issues, with deportations and voluntary repatriations of Mexicans from the United States numbering in the hundreds of thousands every year.

      Mexico’s foreign ministry said the cases of Mexicans killed or injured in incidents involving use of force by US authorities have risen, “from five in 2008 to 12 in 2009 and 17 so far this year.”

      The increasing frequency of such incidents “reflects a disturbing increase in the use of excessive force by some authorities in the border area,” the ministry said. [emphasis mine]

      There’s another video floating on the web showing the beating to death of Anastasio. I will not add it, mainly because the screams you hear are rather disturbing.

      PS: Here’s what seems to be the complete unedited video:

      http://www.univision.com/content/videoplayer.jhtml?cid=2433072

      My preliminary assessment is that the boys’ companions illegally crossed the border to the American side, in order to taunt the BP officer. The officer crosses to the river and seizes one of them. The rest of the boys flee, and from a distance start to throw rocks at the officer —who, I remind you, has his BIKE HELMET on, which I reckon is tough enough to withstand a rock or two; not that the rock-throwing should be accepted as it’s clearly an act of aggression, and that’s something I’ve always recognized; what we condemn here, once again, is the excessive use of force displayed by the agent.

      The officer pulls out his gun while he keeps his detainee secure with his other hand… and fires… several times.

      Sergio (the killed boy) doesn’t appear to have crossed the border at any time. There’s even witnesses claiming he never threw rocks to the officer. Was he an absolutely innocent bystander, then? that’s not possible to determine at the moment.

      1. Stoning
        “In those cases the victim is held against the wall, and can’t escape his executioners.”

        Actually, they are buried up to their neck and rocks are thrown at their head. Big difference. I remember when I was a kid and my two neighbors had a habit of throwing rocks at me when we argued. Had I know then I could have just shot them, it would have made growing up so much easier.

        I find find it amazing and appalling that people can defend what happened here, even before seeing the video. And it’s a great surprise that the officer misstated what happened. Now there is video, and he’ll probably get off with a paid vacation.

        And wasn’t this kid 14 or 15 years old? And I’m to believe that he is a local most wanted and a known coyote?

        I don’t know if people excusing the execution of this child are bigots or what, but most of the people I hear calling for the arrest and deportation of illegal ‘criminals’ defend illegal drug use in the same breath. It’s not a crime worth taking someone’s life over. If a business doesn’t want to hire an immigrant, with or without papers, they don’t have to. But so what if someone just crosses the border and finds someone willing to hire them? Is that so bad?

    1. Nah…
      IMO TDG is like Ayahuasca tea.

      * It’s not bound to be the drug choice of most addicts any time soon.

      * Some people might find the experience harrowing —even gut-wrenching!

      * But for some lucky few, the experience will be illuminating, and life-changing. And it will inevitably help them on their spiritual journey 😉

      1. ah
        [quote]
        * But for some lucky few, the experience will be illuminating, and life-changing. And it will inevitably help them on their spiritual journey 😉
        [/quote]
        ah, that’s what it is. Now that you mention it, I can smell it too.

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