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News Briefs 20-05-2008

Surprise! Oh alright, it’s just me…

Thanks Ross.

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What I’d like to do now – well, what I’d *like* to do now is grow my beard very long, weave it into my pubes and strum it like a harp.

Bill Bailey

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  1. Neural Buddhism
    Gosh, I like nothing better than having some right-wing, opinion-mongering pseudo-intellectual weave “Buddhism” into his own web of narcissistic self-aggrandizing bullshit. “what I call neural buddhism… blah blah blah…I’m from New York City… notice me…I’m important…I can use words and choose wines that go with red meat….blah blah blah.”

    I get the impression that he’s not struggling trying to give voice to the inchoate…he’s just tossing crap out there, trying to catch hold of the next “big thing” so he can be asked onto a talking head show and get his ego refreshed. Relax, Dave. Don’t strain your brain. It’s an election year after all. You’ve got plenty to do.

    Numbnut…wake up…it’s Renaissance 2.0

    “We’re in the middle of a scientific revolution. It’s going to have big cultural effects.” Jeez…really? I get the opinion the guy would’ve said exactly the same thing after the Catholic church put Galileo under house arrest. Probably for the same self-serving reasons.

    We’re at the very beginning of a new Renaissance…and it’s a race with the Inquisition again. Buckle up – it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

    1. tossing crap?
      is it not what you just did, gizmosity ?

      We should calm down, and say things slowly, and reasonably. After a little bit of thought.

      —-
      if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

      it’s not how fast you go, it’s who gets there first

      1. You are absolutely correct.
        You are absolutely correct. I had the karma to see the words.
        Whether I like the words or not is extra…
        Whether I want to continue to have the karma to see those kind of things is up to me
        So one can reinforce the thoughts by recycling them
        Or one let them fall as petals on the surface of the mandala as an offering of emptiness
        I let them fall as an offering
        OM MANI PADME HUM

        1. so…
          so after the initial explosive statement, which serves to gain attention,

          we can then go to productive discussions.

          If you want to.

          —-
          if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

          it’s not how fast you go, it’s who gets there first

          1. IMO
            I kinda liked the article. It points that the debate between atheists & fundamentalists is getting tired, and we should ask new questions based on the evidence science has gathered regarding the importance of religious experiences.

            Maybe the guy wants to put himself in the position of claiming to be the first to recognize this trend, but what could we expect from a journalist? 🙂

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          2. I would submit that Buddhism
            I would submit that Buddhism has been posing your “new questions” all along. I don’t think that Buddhism needs the “neural” placed in front of it by Mr. Brooks. It has survived 2,500 years without it, thankyouverymuch.

            I can only assume that the debate to which you refer is tired because it is about dualism–atheist vs. fundamentalist. Dualism is a dead-end. Ladies and gentlemen, in Renaissance 2.0 the dialectic is dead.

            Buddhism is not about dualism at all…quite the contrary, it is all about nondualism. It always has been. Check up on that yourself.

            From what I have seen during my brief time here on Earth, there seems to be only conflict between science and the Abrahamic religions. I’m not trying to stir anything up. I’m just saying what I’ve seen.

            Unfortunately, Buddhists have been relegated to the rather limited realm afforded “religion” in the West. This is like placing Einstein in a straitjacket and a rubber room. You kinda limit the whole thought process…

            It has been my experience that Buddhism has little to do with religion, in fact. Buddhism requires no Science (or journalist :-)) as an apologist. It is what it is…neither science nor religion…but *both* intertwined because any separation is… dualism. When you look around you see Buddhism everywhere. All that is required is to recognize it for what it is and accept it. This is not a New Age religious thing. It simply is what it is.

            Heck, you see it referred to everywhere…physics, psychology, philosophy, religion…it permeates everything.

            I would submit that Science is now approaching the great epsistemological questions that Buddha *and others* have approached before–without the orthodoxy of a imposed religious tradition (so far). Now *this* is extremely exciting and worth writing about and talking about.

            And this is the basis of Renaissance 2.0. Whereas Renaissance 1.0 had “scientific reason” as its basis, Renaissance 2.0 has “Buddhism” (forget the ‘religious’ connotations and focus on nondualism) as its basis…a simultaneous abandonment of materialism and superstition and the embracing of reality (without quotes, for a change :-)) as its core premise.

            I would suggest that this is what we’re about now, not the transient shallow silliness of an OpEd piece in the NY Times (or the ephemeral blog post, for that matter :-))

            Again, I offer these as petals on the surface of the mandala as an offering of emptiness…

            OM MANI PADME HUM

          3. You’re right
            People have tirelessly told us that it’s always a matter of picking one of two: either religion or God (and yes, in this debate it is the abrahamic God). Yet we are starting to see there could be other choices too.

            [quote]All that is required is to recognize it for what it is and accept it. This is not a New Age religious thing. It simply is what it is.[/quote]

            Agreed, but maybe the ability to recognize this aspect of Budhism is new? at least in western countries 🙂

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          4. Choices
            [quote=red pill junkie]People have tirelessly told us that it’s always a matter of picking one of two: either religion or God (and yes, in this debate it is the abrahamic God). Yet we are starting to see there could be other choices too.[/quote]

            For what it’s worth, I felt that content of this nature coming from a writer known for conservative political commentary is tremendously valuable, especially in a mainstream publication with the reach of the New York Times.

            Though Brooks drew an analogy to Buddhism, the discoveries and associated discussions going on in neuroscience can be interpreted to support the monistic idealism that is expressed in Taoism, Hinduism, Kaballah, Sufism and mystical Christianity as well as Buddhism, and which all point directly to everyone’s connection with the source of creation, and by extension, the earth, the cosmos and each other. It’s a connection that we share on the deepest level of consciousness, and if it were actually broadly realized, the cultural consequences would be dramatic.

            We’d be much less likely to assault one another if we actually understood that everything and everyone we’ve ever encountered was actually what people call “God” in disguise.

            There wouldn’t be conflict between science and religion, either, and both materialism and the various religions would collapse in concert. The understanding would be that science is, and always has been, the investigation of aspects of the divine itself, and that all of the religions were simply attempts to express a single truth.

          5. Indeed
            Reading words like “love”, “emotions”, “consciousness” in a media like the Times makes you feel the winds are changing 🙂

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

  2. Iceland: could that happen to the rest of the world?
    [quote] ‘You have to be not only tough but inventive to survive here,’ said Svafa. ‘If you don’t use your imagination, you’re finished; if you stand still, you die.'[/quote]

    What a paradox that these people live in one of the harshest enviroments and yet have managed to attain the highest quality of life and a vibrant cultural life!

    And in the countries where life should be easy, with warm climates and trees laden with fruit in their branches, the story is much different.

    In ‘richer” countries the norm now is to live with chronical depression, with a permanent sense of… unaccomplishment, unfulfillness

    Many of us think the world is going to become a rougher place in the years to come. Climate change, food scarcity, the end of oil, declining of biodiversity, take your pick.

    Could we follow the example of the icelanders, trust in ourselves and put the hard work necessary to have full happy lives, even if we stop having the easy luxuries of our fathers?

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

    1. suppose
      Suppose they are not entirely honest about their happiness.

      Also, consider that there are only about 308,000
      of them, according to their estimate, reported by they CIA. As of 2 months from now 🙂

      Now, is this because the CIA is inaccurate again? Or is it because they are so happy there?

      —-
      if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

      it’s not how fast you go, it’s who gets there first

      1. We’ve talked about it
        We’ve talked about it in the past with our buddy Anthony. The problem with many countries is that they are so damn big!

        But our planet has experienced several die-offs in the past, maybe now it’s our turn.

        Now, keep in mind that I don’t have a morbid desire to see millions dying. But unfortunately we humans have a sad tendency to learn our lessons the hard way.

        Then again, maybe we can start enacting policies that will let us reach more balanced population levels. Maybe in a thousand years we could have 3 billion people on Earth, and others elsewhere… or we could end up with 100 million scattered among the rubble the next decade. It’s our choice.

        Some folks think that if there was a really big natural disaster, say a meteor striking Earth, that we wouldn’t be able to mantain a civilization, we would be doomed to return to the Stone Age. But maybe if we follow the example of the icelanders that might not happen.

        What will it take to people to realize we can’t keep it up like this much longer?

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

      2. half way
        Why don’t we meet, Red, me and Anthony, in Iceland, and check why they are so happy? It would be a short trip for Anthony, who for some reason is averse to travel.

        To the extent that I can figure it out, none of us need a special visa, we can just go.

        However I do suggest that we go in the northern summer. I know winter in Southern Ontario, and I also know it is much colder and darker in Iceland.

        —-
        if everything is under control, you are not going fast enough (Mario Andretti)

        it’s not how fast you go, it’s who gets there first

        1. Dude…
          Does “Third World Country” ring a bell?? 😉

          Before I start to trek the world, I should first solve my problem of not having a medical insurance, you know.

          But after I read the article, I honestly felt the desire to know more about this land and its people. And I agree with you when you say that to really know some place you have to get your fat behind off your chair and go; you’re 100% right on that one.

          PS: I honestly don’t want to leave this level of consciousness without first shaking hands—and sharing a pint—with you two guys 🙂
          —–
          It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
          It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

          Red Pill Junkie

          1. A pint
            I’ll be thinking of you both when I have one or two tonight 😉

            I’m fanatical about moderation

            Anthony North

    2. True imagination
      True imagination proceeds from action not from fantasy…

      Red Pill Junkie, I agree whole-heartedly with the quote you pulled from the article. I think in the US we have lived from fantasy for far too long…perhaps because we have been able to do so due to the fact that we’ve got 6″ of topsoil, fairly reliable rain, and cheap fossil fuel to move the stuff that grows around!

      What do you think of the role of scale in sustainability?

      1. Read my comment above 🙂
        Gizmosity, I think you’ll find I agree that scaling down is the answer to sustainability. Big countries have big troubles, and often rely on dictatorships to keep the nation coalesced. Now we have the technology to have a myriad of little island-nations connected and cooperating together. I say we use it.

        Let me describe what I see in my own country, Mexico. In my country it has always been the tradition that the northern states are more industrious and have attained more wealth than the southern states, which sounds like an impossibility because life is harder in the North; there’s not much water and the weather is too hot, whereas the south enjoys nicer climates and the abundance of the tropics.

        So, it seems that people in harsher conditions are often the ones who try the hardest, why the others that have it too easy turn complacent.

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

          1. But above all
            We need to stop thinking everything for granted. That we will always have plenty of food, water and clean air.

            Earth is not a neverending supermarket. This is a spaceship travelling around a star, with limmited supplies and an ever-growing crew.

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

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