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News Briefs 26-09-2007

Today we lift the veil and enter the Secret World:

Thanks Kat.

Quote of the Day:

Fear is not the natural state of civilized people.

Aung San Suu Kyi

  1. Fear is not the natural state of civilized people.
    One could dispute it is precisely FEAR one of the driving factors of civilization.

    People gather in large communities first for fear of nature, then for fear of robbers or foreign invaders. You submit to the authority of governments because they mantain the monopoly of force, to exert it against its subjects as a persuasive method to mantain the fabric of society. If you do not follow the State’s laws, you suffer the consequences.

    It may be in the end, that the very basis of any human society is the fear of loneliness.

    It’s a terrible thing living in fear…
    That’s what it means to be a SLAVE

    Blade Runner

    1. Of course
      Fear indeed is the major driving factor of civilization.

      Fear of losing, fear of dying, fear of not having, fear of solitude, all of which being factors that anyone knows about.

      But, are these fears natural? Could it be that fears are induced factors that exactly oppose the nature of spirit?

      Because of fear, we are slaves to our condition. It seem natural because it is immemorial. It is a conditioning vibration that those who must evolve will have to extirpate from their psyche. Until then, humanity will be dominated by its fears and the individuals will not have nor find the will to join their reality.

      Fear is totally astral in nature, it proceeds from the soul, and it is that fear that keeps that soul bonded to this animal vehicle.

      Not mating that fear means remaining existential and forbids life.

      1. Living without fear.
        That would be something truly marveolus to attain.

        Do you envision a human society that could function without fear Richard? I mean, something that could be attained in our lifetimes?

        Or will it remain as the wishful thinking of visionary men.

        I don’t know, I suppose someone like Dawkin’s would react to all of this saying fear is an essencial part of a living organism to keep itself alive. Through the adrenaline triggered by a fear response the body is ready to execute a physical effort in order to escape the threat of a predator or a natural disaster.

        The people that survived the tsunami in 2004 were the ones to followed their fear reaction and RAN like hell.

        But living with constant fear has a heavy toll in every organism. A shrew has pretty much the same number of heart beats in its lifetime than an elephant, but the first, a being which is always “on the jump”, lives for only a couple of years, whereas the more tranquil elephant gets to live nearly three quarters of a century…

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

        1. Fear
          I think fear is certainly a major part of human civilisation and instinct. Even going back to animist, tribal societies, fear seemed to be fundamental to placating the ‘spirits’ in the ‘pact’, the basis of spiritual understanding, as we know it.
          Everything is so huge in the universe, and fear drives us on to become bigger, to define knowledge to overcome fear. Present scepticism of the paranormal can be seen as rational people expressing fear – maybe of the unknown, maybe of the confusion that could follow the fall of a paradigm.
          I don’t think we could live without fear. Have you noticed that popularity of horror fiction and crazy antics such as bungee jumping seem to increase when the world seems peaceful?
          It seems to be a survival instinct, but the danger comes in fear being manipulated, or in over-reaction. This comes from governments using fear to control us, to an overly active fear that leads to phobias.
          Interestingly, fear can be reduced through spiritual enlightenment, especially in the eastern model. But is this removing oneself from ‘human’ society and influence and entering another state?
          Maybe if we could truly understand this state, fear would be reduced. But would we be truly human?

          Reality, like time, is relative to the observer

          Anthony North

          1. Great input
            I think these practices you mention come from the realisation by others that there’s a great deal of loss that comes from a life that clings in the illusion of security. A man who thinks of himself in terms of being immortal (who does not like to think that eventually he will die) is a man who becomes stagnant. Since you have plenty of time to do the things you want to do, what’s the rush?

            So it’s interesting to hear the comments of people who go and jump off a plane with a parachute, or go rafting, or even something simpler like riding a roller coaster: they ssay it makes them feel more alive

            Stagnation can be suffered by whole societies in fact. There’s all this talk about space exploration, but it’s yet to be seen if the countries interested in venturing into that final frontier are really willing to pay the price; discoveries of centuries past were not made by men who had all the assurance that their trek would be safe and that they would return alive. From a purely technical point of view for example, it would be more sensible and feasible that the first astronauts who go to Mars should have ONLY a one-way ticket. What space agency would dare to suscribe to that kind of mission?

            But getting back to spiritual traditions, there’s the trial to any would-be shaman to go and face his animal-spirit, where he would be devoured only to be restored into another form of life, where he would attain a permanent link with the spirit world.

            From the works of Castañeda, Don Juan teaches him that the first enemy a man who wants to walk the path of knowledge is FEAR. Fear of the the unknown, or not having any control over the tremendous energies that surround us everyday of our lives.

            Thus, a man of knoweldge must first become a warrior, and enter the path of knowledge as a warrior goes to battle, with full awareness and fully planning everymove, lest it be his last. He must face his fears with sobriety and mindful that he has no time to waste.

            But Castañeda never talks about the pursuit of knowledge in terms of a society. It seems to imply the path to knowledge is personal. A man who has no fear must pay the price of walking alone…

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          2. Walking alone
            Good points, Red, but I’m interested in the idea of walking alone in the pursuit of mystical knowledge or enlightenment. Yes, this is certainly fearful, mainly because we leave human society behind, but I think one of the great realisations is that, once we’ve combated the fear and engaged with this knowledge, we are not as alone as we think.
            Rather, mystics talk of a ‘totality’, or ‘wholeness’, which should make us feel smaller and more fearful, but doesn’t. It is as if the individual has become as one with something greater, rather than just a miniscule part.
            Is it any wonder Gnostics feel we are imprisoned in the flesh?

            I’m fanatical about moderation

            Anthony North

          3. Alone but not alone
            The ultimate goal of the mystic is to “melt” with God, to be part of that wholeness you speak off. But that in a sense means the utter destruction of the self like a moth that finally touches the candle light that beckons her until she turns into ashes; and at least that for us westerners is one of the most frightful ideas we can think of. We cling into our sense of individuality so desperately.

            The christian idea of “being perfect as thy heavenly Father” for me means that you let the will of God become your own. To put your complete trust in God’s wisdom, while you travel in the utter darkness.

            It is compelling to know that a person like Mother Theresa of Calcuta, throughout most of her life felt what some mistics call the “terrible night of the soul”; rather than a connection or “wholeness” with something greater than herself, she sensed a complete void with no apparent meaning whatsoever.

            Yet she kept on struggling.

            Well, once again I’m not sure what I’m talking about here!!
            🙂

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          4. Annihilation
            Good morning everyone,
            Yes, Hinduism has a series of stages of meditation, which includes the annihilation of the self, before reaching ‘oneness’. Jung described meeting the Godhead through losing who you are – again annihilation of the self.
            Interestingly, it seems you can take your ‘culture’ with you, though. Hinduism demands that the culture is destroyed along with the self. Yet a Christian doesn’t meet ‘wholeness’ alone. They also meet what their culture says they will – i.e. God.
            Bearing in mind that cultural baggage can be part and parcel of the experience, can we look to Mother Theresa’s experience as an inevitability of martyrdom? I suspect this is what she wanted to feel in order to validate herself as selfless, and thus a martyr.

            I’m fanatical about moderation

            Anthony North

          5. Mystics
            That is also why mystics will be hard struck when they realize that the goal is not to blend with the gods but to master their energy so that they can integrate the whole of their own reality, hence the gods.

        2. In a lifetime
          There is no other way than doing it while in incarnation.

          Since memory of previous lives is not transferred at the time of incarnation, for all kinds of reasons, the individual ends up kind of starting over every time, in relation to certain problems of realization.

          So, there is no choice but to mate one’s soul in a lifetime. I am saying mating the soul because fear is a phenomena tied to this principle and having nothing to do with the spirit.

          The soul, in its close relationship with the animal body and its astral content is the cause of fears.

          Fears, historically, have been useful in the maintenance of mechanisms that were necessary for the survival of the physical body, during an epoch where the spirit was weak, having been cut off from its source and having no experience of materiality without the support of that source, hence the expulsion of eden.

          Now, the physical body is evolved, the subtle bodies are formed and ready to be used and electrified to receive the charge of this counterpart that is not incarnated and that never was.

          Since the connection cannot happen in death, that world being severed from the universal circuits, the souls will have no choice but to reincarnate to finalize their purpose. So, it has to happen in a lifetime and the mating of fears, most especially the existential fears rather than the purely survival fears linked to the material body, must be mated.

          This means that the sleeping spirit must awaken to the manipulations and domination of the soul over its consciousness. It must realize the dominating forces over its consciousness, to the lies of the astral and the dead, to his very reflective thinking process, if he is to ascend to his own authority over his own life.

          It is in this authority that fear is gone and replaced with a vibration that then escapes manipulations, especially those that come from within.

          We don’t tend to look at internal tensions as being manipulations. We have been used for so long of thinking of these phenomena as natural processes that we have been led to believe that we should listen to these tensions and make them ours. In reality, they are not ours. Nothing is ours until we have created the authority over our senses, over our psychic and material channels, it is rather the opposite and we belong to those energies.

          Man must repossess his energies, energies that have been hijacked from him by hierarchies that regiment the world of the dead which we call the astral. These hierarchies are those that have been called Luciferian and Satanic and who have for functions, among others, to keep man severed from his reality so that the energy of his spirit in experimentation can be used for the creation of evolutionary models in their world, at the expense of the right to know, of the right to the integrally of man. These hierarchies have been responsible for the fall of man and now, man has not even the memory of what he truly is.

          All these energies of low vibration that create suffering and fear, that create division among men and nations, that create wars and conflicts, are linked to the activity of these hierarchies that dominate the dead who are then forced to interfere within the human psyche, to entertain these retardatory energies and maginfy them by creating thoughts that use memories and emotions so that they seem perfectly in harmony with the unconscious self who then thinks he thinks.

          The danger is much more from within than from without.

          It must happen within a lifetime.

  2. Aung San Suu Kyi
    I interpret her quote differently……She is imprisoned in her home…..and is encouraging her people to be Not afraid, considering that the Fascist Regime there (in Burma) are not pleasant people. They are currently murdering and torturing Buddhist monks and anyone else who dares to protest and get in the way………….
    Philosophy and philosophising is a freedom, which we in the west are so lucky to possess………….
    Regards Badeye…………..

    1. Free at last?
      [quote=badeye]Philosophy and philosophising is a freedom, which we in the west are so lucky to possess………….
      Regards Badeye………….. [/quote]

      To a certain extent at least. Are we really, TRULY free?

      Sometimes I think we are only free to consume.

      Yes, I have the liberty of exchanging these wonderful ideas with you people, but why? because I pay …or rahter my employer right now ;-)… for an internet connection that is quite unaceesible to a lot of people.
      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

      1. Freedom?
        With what is presently happening in Burma I feel embarrassed to deal with freedom in the west, but the simple reality is, you are free to do or be whatever you want as long as you have a hefty mortgage and pension plan, a new car, designer clothes and holiday twice a year.
        Be anything else and you risk marginalisation. There is an old adage that nothing destroys freedom more than the idea you’ve got it.
        You’ve got it so right, Red.

        I’m fanatical about moderation

        Anthony North

        1. old adage
          I usually don’t care much for these adages but somehow, I like this one.

          There is a flag to the west and that flag is the constitution of the USA.

          Regardless of the impressions of abuse some may have in relation to that country, this constitution is extremely important, even at the planetary scale. It is a beacon that will be used to free much on this planet, even if freedom remains a relative concept in the mind of psychological men.

          Freedom, in its absolute sense on an experimental world such as this one, starts with the severance from all influences, would they be collective or from within.

          The problem is the lack of identity.

          Lack of a real identity brings the individual to seek a model to identify to. That model will of course be based on the values of his civilization, therefore that model ends up being the limit of his impression of what freedom means.

          This is being short changed in exchange for a sense of being something.

          A free man does not define himself in relation to his environment.

          1. Free man
            [quote=Richard]A free man does not define himself in relation to his environment.[/quote]

            But then he may be labeled as a lunatic by his contemporaries.

            That said, I like a quote that it’s supposed to be from Salvador Dalí: “The difference between a madman and me… it’s that I’m NOT mad.” 🙂

            PS: I have a lot of problems with the government of the USA, but I have no problem whatsoever with the Declaration of Independence. t is one of the best documents ever written by human beings. Too bad it is often forgotten by those in power.
            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          2. his contemporaries
            Would he not also be free from the lack of freedom in others?

            Being free from collective consciousness demands to be free from any thought convention, any judgmental attitude, from anything that would seek to directly or indirectly dominate him and make of him a little being that must be brought back into the fold.

            On the other hand, such a man would also have the intelligence of being free of any need to prove anything to anyone and would therefore know not to create impressions in others that they either could not support or that they would interpret.

            Freedom is not an attitude.

            Man is not free on this planet yet and his freedom will have to be gained against the full impact of the historical enslavement by psychological attributes, soul cravings, impression of powerlessness, cession of his right over his own live for the profit of temporal and spiritual masters.

            Before being free in matter one must be free in spirit.

            And a man who knows the principle of love, as it was brought forth by the initiate of Nazareth render free those around him, and this goes totally against the history of humanity, even as of today.

          3. Niiice!
            And the Truth shall make Us Free

            BTW that’s the motto of my alma mater 😉

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          4. Niiice???
            >>And the Truth shall make Us Free
            BTW that’s the motto of my alma mater
            😉

            That’s the CIA’s motto. Are you trying to tell us something? 😉

            Kat

          5. LOL!
            That’a also the motto of the JESUITS. Coincidence???? 😉

            I studied here

            Check out the logo: it’s got two wolves and a cauldron, which was the coat of arms of St. Ignacio de Loyola.

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

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