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News Briefs 01-10-2007

This planet keeps getting weirder by the day. Feel free to post your thoughts – if you still have any.

Quote of the Day:

…since 9/11, we’ve become “The United States of Fighting Terrorism.”… What does that mean? This: 9/11 has made us stupid. I honor, and weep for, all those murdered on that day. But our reaction to 9/11 — mine included — has knocked America completely out of balance, and it is time to get things right again.

Thomas L. Friedman, in his Sept. 30th op-ed ‘9/11 Is Over‘.

  1. Quote of the Day
    Regarding 9/11 Is Over

    As Libby said, maybe Colbert spiked his water with truth serum during his recent appearance on the show, but I read this op-ed and thought — who is this guy, and what has he done with the real Thomas Friedman?

    Needless to say, the entire spectrum of the blogosphere is wondering the same thing.

    Choosing today’s quote was a hard call. The runner up was what nobel prize winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz said in the last paragraph of his NYTimes review of Naomi Klein’s book The Rise of Disaster Capitalism (Amazon US & UK):

    “Some readers may see Klein’s findings as evidence of a giant conspiracy, a conclusion she explicitly disavows. It’s not the conspiracies that wreck the world but the series of wrong turns, failed policies, and little and big unfairnesses that add up. Still, those decisions are guided by larger mind-sets. Market fundamentalists never really appreciated the institutions required to make an economy function well, let alone the broader social fabric that civilizations require to prosper and flourish.”

    Maybe the MFs (short for market fundies, you betcha) were born without that recently-discovered gene for the Golden Rule.

    Kat

  2. Brilliant commentary by
    Brilliant commentary by Friedman. But where was his and other journalists’ spine about, oh, four years ago???

    The U.S. has become a joke. When I travel abroad, I no longer tell people I’m from the U.S. I tell them I’m from California. That, they respect.

    1. Can’t Escape the Loony, Leftist Nutroots
      [quote=pacificwhim]I tell them I’m from California. That, they respect. [/quote]

      LOL. Yeah, sure. Well, your fellow Americans don’t hold the same view, but you don’t really care about them anyway now do you?

      I come to this site to escape within the topics that don’t get covered elsewhere. If I actually want DailyKOS idiocy I’ll go there.

      1. Views of your fellow Americans
        >>”Well, your fellow Americans don’t hold the same view, but you don’t really care about them anyway now do you?”

        Although, like all internet polls, it’s not scientific, this recent MSNBC Poll (which is still open, in case you’d like to add your vote) tends to indicate that you’re out of touch with what your fellow Americans think.

        Do you believe President Bush’s actions justify impeachment? * 566323 responses

        Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
        89%

        No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
        4.1%

        No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
        5.1%

        I don’t know.
        1.9%

        >>”I come to this site to escape within the topics that don’t get covered elsewhere.”

        Many other TDGers have repeatedly said they appreciate a bit of politics at TDG, but you don’t really care about their views, now do you?”

        >>”If I actually want DailyKOS idiocy I’ll go there.”

        As always, Friedman’s op-ed was published in the New York Times. Whether idiocy or otherwise, I didn’t post a link to DailyKOS. I included the link to Libby’s post in my comment to give credit for the line I filched almost verbatim from her. The google blog search I linked on Friedman’s op-ed brings up blogs across the political spectrum — although I’ll grant, it’s getting more difficult to tell one end of the spectrum from the other when even The American Conservative‘s cover and lead article damns General Petraeus as a sycophant.

        Kat

  3. Skyrocketing grain prices… Oh! so now it’s MY fault?
    From the article:
    [quote]A growing middle class in these regions is eating more meat and milk, which in turn is increasing demand for grain to feed livestock. In the U.S., a beef cow has to eat roughly six pounds of grain to put on a pound of weight, and a hog about four pounds.[/quote]

    That’s funny, up until now I thought that the trend was for a DIMINISHING middle class in Latin America, but now it seems we are actually increasing our ranks. Who knew?

    [quote]Similar increases are showing up abroad. Italian shoppers are protesting soaring pasta prices, and Mexican authorities have capped the price of corn tortillas. Pakistan is curbing wheat exports to counter rising food-price inflation while Russian authorities, worried about rising bread prices, are considering a similar clampdown.[/quote]

    Tortilla prices were a no-brainer: Bush wanted Latin America to start making ethanol from maize for the gas-thirsty american market, so that made a pretty good deal for the farmers who had another choice than selling their crops to the Tortilla mills. Good for them in the short term, bad for all of us in the long run.

    I am definitely no economist, but I think the article should consider that, instead of a demand in meat and dairy, the real cause of high prices in grains are:

    a)The high prices of oil for the last 5 years, and

    b)Climatic instability that has brought either draughts or floods in farming regions, ruining many harvests.

    Here in MexiCo there was going to be a higher-than-usual increase in gasoline prices (we are so stupid we actually export the oil and import the gasoline! Andale Andale!) so that will undoubtedly provoke an inflation in basic commodities. The government will hold the increase until January (when it will actually make MORE damage to the families’ economies), but already the super-markets are raising the prices of some products 🙁

    I think the solution could actually be very simple: We should stop buying so many JUNK FOOD, think of all the grain (combined with electricity and gas) that is used by the junk food companies to make all those cheetos, doritos, chips and pretzels that we mindlessly gobble up while watching a movie or a football game. Those grains could then be sent to the areas where people are actually starving.

    I know it’s pretty utopic. Like I said I’m no economist. But then again, the high oil prices forced american consumers to switch their beloved SUVs for more sensible cars. When dealing with a hard reality, people are (grudgedly) willing to change their habits.

    We could also stop eating so much meat, but that it’s definitely a less sensible and feasible solution. Too many people would rather give up their doritos than their steaks. Even in Britain after al the Mad-cow scare, people refused to stop eating beef; like all the people that still practice un-protected sex, those are the kinds of decisions of people that have the delusion of invulnerability, that it won’t happen TO THEM.

    —–
    It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
    It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

    Red Pill Junkie

    1. size of the population
      Some of the folks, like the Club of Rome types. say that we jsut have too many people. These too many people consume too m much, and now they emit too much CO2. And so on.

      How about, we have the same number of people, but we just make them smaller?

      Instead of the average size we have no, let’s make them half that size?

      That would fit right in with these control freaks.

      We could have the politicians, of what is today normal size, and we could have, really , the little people. much easier to control.

      A dream for the socialists, the aristocrats, and the rest of them.

      —-
      For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

      1. NO WAY!!!
        I have heard of that theory proposed by a scientist: find the reason why our bodies get so big, and revert it, so the population gets to be 1.60 at the most.

        Maybe that’s what our alien reticulan friends did eons ago on their planets, so now that they come here they got addicted to Cow beef 😉

        But I’m emotionally reluctant to accept such a plan.

        I’m 6′ 4″ and although it definitely has its disadvantages (finding shoes your size here in Mexico is a major, MAJOR pain in the butt), I admit it’s got some nice advantages too (especially at ROCK concerts!).

        So, earthling, we have to come up with ANOTHER solution (LOL)

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

        1. similarly
          I’m not a short or big psrson, about 6’1 or so. I don’t fit in most bath tubs in hotels. The small people can just sit in the bath and do nothing and they will be clean. Normal size people like me have to work at being clean. I won’t go into details.

          On the other hand, the short people seem to think that what the taller people say is right. Perhaps it has to do with the big people reminding them of parents?

          But really, it is easier to hit short people on the head, that’s why dictators like them.

          —-
          For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

          1. Big is tuff!
            [quote]Normal size people like me have to work at being clean[/quote]

            Or, you can hire a… er… never mind! 🙂

            Hey! Maybe that’s why BIGFOOT is said to have such a terrible smell! (LOL)

            PS:6’1″ is pretty big in most parts of the world man.

            —–
            It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
            It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

            Red Pill Junkie

          2. 6’1″…big
            this height is average for rural Australians. I’m 5’11” but get lost and feel small in the local pub!

            “Life can be whatever you want it to be, as long as you do what your told.”
            LRF.

    2. Rising Prices,
      The death of the dollar. Inflation with energy and food added has been running at 10-14% the last 2 years. The government does not add those into its models. If you have any saving turn it into bullion now silver is very low! And start a garden for your family. Really this is much worse then 87. I worked on the CBOE floor for 8 years including that time frame. The euro is the currency of the near future. And any debt you can devest yourself of now is also a great idea!
      Also crops in wheat and other grains have been very poor. Wheat is trading around 9$ a bushel.

  4. Bladerunner Final Cut.
    Can’t wait to see it on the big screen again! And a 5 disk DVD set will keep me out of trouble for a few hours. But as for the interview on Wired. What was wrong with the reporter? Did he do any homework on his subject?

    1. Kjnd of a mixed message there!
      Ok, blade, first you advise me that I should get rid of all my credit debts, but then you are TEMPTING me to increase my debts by purchasing that awesome Blade Runner 5-disc set. What is it with you??? 😀

      Oh well, who needs to drink milk every day? A person has got to have PRIORITIES (LOL)

      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

      1. Moderation
        Earthling said:

        ‘… the short people seem to think that what the taller people say is right. Perhaps it has to do with the big people reminding them of parents?
        ‘But really, it is easier to hit short people on the head, that’s why dictators like them.’

        At 5 foot 4 inch I’d just like to say what an absolute load of …
        Ain’t you lankies ever heard of a stool? 🙂

        As with most arguments, the above – not height, the economy – can be decided in the same way. Moderation. That’s all the world needs. Not being fanatical about everything. Except … moderation, moderation, moderation …

        I’m fanatical about it, you know

        Anthony North

        1. reasonableness
          Of course taller people are not more correct. Intelligence and good judgement are independent of physical size.

          But many people are more convinced by tall men, compared to short men or women. It is stupid, but it is the fault of the followers.

          I have seen this happen. One of my most intelligent friends is half a head shorter than me. If I say XYZ, people believe me. If he says the exact same thing, they don’t believe him. Same thing with my sisters, people believe me over them because I’m a guy, taller, with a deeper voice.

          None of those have anything to do with the actual point any of us make.

          Again, I blame this on the followers, the listeners. They don’t listen to the actual reasoning that much, they listen to their emotions.

          Along the same lines, if someone quietly says something, and someone else shouts, most people will believe the shouter.

          —-
          For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

          1. Frustration
            Hi Earthling,
            I don’t think it’s as simple as that. The people we listen to most can be seen as the shouters, mainly because they seem more sensational. But I think it’s also to do with stereotypes – we are culturally attuned to pay certain types more attention. Just look at Hollywood. But this is on small scale interaction. If we go to societal movements, I think it’s a different story.
            To me, society seems to evolve through frustration. Any changes in society tend to come following frustrations at something within that society.
            If Marx was right about anything, it was that great thinkers can die in obscurity because the time was not right. But if a thinker realises these frustrations and correctly judges the mood of society, then he is onto a winner.
            He has become what I call a ‘cultural catalyst’. History records him as the main element of change, but really it was society’s frustrations that created his mind-set in the first place.
            Those thinkers who don’t follow this process simply shout on the sidelines, and are usually classed as cranks.

            Reality, like time, is relative to the observer

            Anthony North

          2. well yes
            Sure it is more effective to shout about problems that are evident to many people.

            Rock bands do that – they amplify (literally) the frustrations of young people. So do Rap “artists” now.

            In the past, and still now, Blues artists express heartache, and the simple ways to deal with it.

            But as you say, there were a few individuals who could ride the wave of real frustrations, and effect real change. Marx was one of them, even if the real change happened after his death. Hitler, Stalin and Mao did the same thing while they were alive.

            They shouted at the right time. But I would say that, in these examples and many more, the change they effected was for the worse.

            On the other side, there are people like Gandhi or Thomas Jefferson, who shouted, but the long term result was more positive.

            —-
            For every action there is an equal and opposite government program.

    2. More on Bladerunner Final Cut
      You might try this NYTimes article about Bladerunner: The Final Cut.

      excerpt:

      The film’s theme of dehumanization has also been sharpened. What has been a matter of speculation and debate is now a certainty: Deckard, the replicant-hunting cop, is himself a replicant. Mr. Scott confirmed this: “Yes, he’s a replicant. He was always a replicant.”

      This may disappoint some viewers. Deckard is the film’s one person with a conscience. If he’s a replicant, it means that there are no more decent human beings.

      “It’s a pretty dark world,” Mr. Scott acknowledged. “How many decent human beings do you meet these days?”

      Kat

      1. That’s what I love about…
        movies like “A.I.”,”I Robot”, and of course “the Matrix”, when they show our “machines” becoming more humane than us.

        Still, I think what kept people thinking that Deckart was human is that by the end of the movie he looks so… fragile.

        Maybe because by the end of the movie he’s really HUMAN. Being human is not about how you begin, but about how you end up.

        Am I really… human?

        —–
        It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
        It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

        Red Pill Junkie

  5. “Nuke the Pyramids”
    Hello,

    Im amazed no one commented on the Ayahuasca experience, maybe the length of the blog turned people off, a pity its an excellent posting and well worth the time for anyone, period. When i almost finished the read an odd thought popped in my head…..”Nuke the Pyramids”

    A matter of choice;
    Intimidation, corruption and lies, or serenity, sharing and sincerity.

    1. Ayahuasca…
      After your commen I went and read that article. Very interesting (and funny too).

      [quote]I have said enough in this article and it is nearly time for me to go. I say let your intuition direct you in the future, not your credit card statement or a lying politician[/quote]

      Sage advice.

      But I’m puzzled by your comment. Could you ellaborate on why you want the pyramids “nuked”?

      —–
      It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
      It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

      Red Pill Junkie

      1. Odd thought? well …
        Hello Red Pill Junkie

        As I said an odd thought, but there are some elements connected to it, first the fairytale that humans were responsible for building the Gizeh pyramids..most definetly they were not! Its a pefect mathematical construction, something the archeologists of 100 years ago werent even able to recognise as such, even with a blank cheque humans couldnt build it today. It is an alien construction !

        The farao’s took the proxy role of the snake gods.The gold spire may have been robbed in days of chaos and so has most of the decking been recycled 1000 years ago, still the construction has kept plenty of power/capacity. To do what, well thats the question now is it ? It’s the center of earths landmass, something which-in another context, Tesla recognised as essential to conduct and transmute energy (electrical in his tests)he used pyramid shaped conducters, – back to the great pyramid, the other ones are distractions,i believe it could well be that it empowers a forcefield, one that keeps us(our minds) imprisoned. Crazy ? Sure we cant see it now, can we and neither can we see the EMF waves that are produced by HAARP, but which could agitate us or put us to sleep depending on the frequency.
        So why not have the great pyramid enhance a borderline frequency that keeps us out or in depending which way you look. Furthermore, when to celebrate 2000 the french wanted to put a new cap on the pyramid, strong resistance came from unexpected corners, apparently these were wary of the possible consequences..better safe then sorry.

        Therefore i think detonating a low yield nuke inside the kings chamber is not going to happen anytime soon. Because even if we would be able to proof its the buckle of the grid that holds us back, the current powers that be wont allow their status be endangered.

        And this is what i rationalised after that odd thought came up.

        A matter of choice;
        Intimidation, corruption and lies, or serenity, sharing and sincerity.

        1. I get it now.
          Personally I’m not that sure that aliens could be the only answer for such an incredible material acomplishment. But I definitely don’t think the pyramids were the mere repository of a pharaoh’s mummy. Its dimmensions throw such mathematical values that are related with many of Earth’s basic characteristic’s (its circumference at the ecuator, for example if I remember correctly) that seem to hint a much higher purpose for the so-called tomb of Cheops.

          This idea of the pyramids emitting/storing energy was also studied with the ruins of my own country. I remember reading a book written by Pedro Ferriz (kind of our mexican version of Dr. Hynek if you will) and a french, Christian Siruguet: Los Ovni y la Arqueología de México (UFOs and Mexico’s Archeology). Although both had different opinions regarding the “authorship” of the pyramids (Ferriz thought the ancient mexicans erected the pyramids according to UFO trails, Siruguet ascribed more to the ancient astronauts theory) they discovered pretty interesting things (among other things, many of the ancient mexican ruins can be aligned on a map, regardless of the age and different cultures that built them!), and even tested the “voltage” some of the pyramids emitted (I think they use a simple voltimeter for this, one of their collaborators was an electrical engineer). Sadly, I have only managed to keep the first part of that book (too many re-readings) and I haven’t found another copy in any library I have asked. Pity 🙁

          —–
          It’s not the depth of the rabbit hole that bugs me…
          It’s all the rabbit SH*T you stumble over on your way down!!!

          Red Pill Junkie

  6. Interesting
    Earth’s oxygen supply originated with cyanobacteria, tiny water-dwelling organisms that survive by photosynthesis. In that process, the bacteria convert carbon dioxide and water into organic carbon and free oxygen. But Claire noted that on the early Earth, free oxygen would quickly combine with an abundant element, hydrogen or carbon for instance, to form other compounds, and so free oxygen did not build up in the atmosphere very readily. Methane, a combination of carbon and hydrogen, became a dominant atmospheric gas.

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